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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

I think that she should start out like that.  Not grossly so, but noticible if you are attentive, but it should fade with time.

You know how someone from work, or the supermarket, or the bank, greets you somewhere on the street and it takes a moment for you to place the person?  That's what the shift should do.  She's just done the amazing super-Alda, Jaylene trusts Behira stuff, and she's a little surprised.

I wonder if that duality would tap into any other part of your story.  You don't have to answer that.

I'm surprised you're still talking to me after I shredded your narrative style twice smile

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Why would I pick on you for treating me the same way I rip apart your work?  I'm impressed, actually.  The fact you notice these things in my work will translate to yours.  The descriptions of pace...frugal words during combat sessions, etc.  I approve of the evolution in your critique.  Now I want to see that kind of improvement in your own style.  You've taken a distinct leap in what you can see in someone else's material.  Time to put it to use. 

(I did roll my eyes when you told me to add description and that the reader has probably forgotten the bit about the pivot rope/ needed a reminder.  Horrors...TWO descriptions of the same person or event?  Isn't that redundant? :-)

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I really hope you do the bit with Jaylene's hand going to the scar, and her murmuring thanks.  That act showed a kind of courage in Tazar, call it courage of the heart--courage and greatness.  I'm not qualified to call it a masterstroke, but it belongs on the dais with them.  Having Jaylene acknowledge it will help the reader understand why she treasures this friend so--and what the Wolves were about.

Of course, you might be saving that for a later chapter.

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njc wrote:

I really hope you do the bit with Jaylene's hand going to the scar, and her murmuring thanks.  That act showed a kind of courage in Tazar, call it courage of the heart--courage and greatness.  I'm not qualified to call it a masterstroke, but it belongs on the dais with them.  Having Jaylene acknowledge it will help the reader understand why she treasures this friend so--and what the Wolves were about.

Of course, you might be saving that for a later chapter.

I think this is a really good suggestion (coming from the ignorant one who hasn't read any of the other books yet).

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amy s wrote:

The fact you notice these things in my work will translate to yours.  Now I want to see that kind of improvement in your own style.  You've taken a distinct leap in what you can see in someone else's material.  Time to put it to use.

* scribbles notes to take it easy on Amy from now on *

not really, because this is exactly what is good about this site!

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I can take it.  K has been ruthless but I keep throwing stones back at him and decided it was fun.  I've said it before.  What good does it do to not be honest?  How else can I improve?

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KHippolite wrote:

IIf it were possible to run Amy off this site, I'd have sent her running long ago

Careful K - following amy's (solid) reasoning, by running her off the site, you'd be running yourself off the site because she'll turn the tables on you!  hehehe

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If we both go off site, we'll be holding hands and skipping.  lalalalalala

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Further thought on 'Distrusting Alda ...'

Without retracting my new mantra ('Don't Fear the Copula') I'm thinking this could be turned positive: If she trusted Behira, she had to trust Alda.  It does change what goes unstated, but it might better expose the vulnerable part of Jaylene's faith.

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I"m going to rip through the last few reviews of this and adjust a few things.  I need to change the ending of this chapter.  Just a little, but something that leads into the priorities of the next section of this book.  I also need to add in all those yummy suggestions.  Thanks for keeping this book in the back of your mind and sharing the stray thoughts@

A

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Re: Acts/ Dictates/ Mandates/ Mantle - Amy's Thread

Per your review--YOU have the blouse wet.  The brief reaction says that Jaylene has earned more respect with the guards--and with the prisoners.

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Point taken.  K can take off his own pants instead of trying to make Jaylene's disappear.

Let me amend a previous statement.  If K and I leave the site, we will go hand in hand a skip away.  Then I will trip him.

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amy s wrote:

Point taken.  K can take off his own pants instead of trying to make Jaylene's disappear.

Let me amend a previous statement.  If K and I leave the site, we will go hand in hand a skip away.  Then I will trip him.

By the way, should you and K leave this site, I'd suggest drop the skipping altogether and start running as fast as you can, because you would not want me to catch up with you guys .....  * growls menacingly while wiping away tears *

But while you're still around, it seems like Jaylene's clothing is in the way.  Why don't you keep things simple and just have her arrive naked?  In any case, with or without pants and all kinds of clinging garments, let the guards and prisoners enjoy the show, and then let Tazar get his breath back and let him loose to teach them some manners and respect.  And while he's at it, you have in writing what K and njc said, I'm sure Tazar will not take to it too kindly.  * gets popcorn and a chair to watch (and enjoy) Tazar whoop some ass *

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Some ideas are just too toxic ... .

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Sorry boys, too late now to scramble, Tazar is already pissed off - I'd suggest you start running NOW if you haven't already  * chews popcorn *

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KHippolite wrote:
janet reid wrote:

But while you're still around, it seems like Jaylene's clothing is in the way.  Why don't you keep things simple and just have her arrive naked?

If we're doing nominations, I vote tutu

tsk tsk, from no pants to tutu - this is what I call a 360 degree turn where in reality you should be aiming for a 180 degree turn ...  At this rate you're going to have to deal with Tazar AND Alda (and remember who picked who up in chapter 11 .....)

edit - but in any case, I second K's tutu proposal - not sure who's going to convince Alda it's the way to go though .....

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Amy, I apologize for reanimating this topic.  Just call me Ennis Pyburn.

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S'OK. I'm just trying to visualize Alda in a tutu. While I'm at it, I turn Kajo back into a kitten and put a tutu on him as well.

(Sits next to Janet and takes a bite of popcorn to enjoy the show as well)

Matthew wouldn't wear one. "Forsooth , what be this?"  (Black John though...)

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Raindrop tracks and guttering: the tracks/trails give the apppearance of gutterring ... and that foreshadows the wear and tear that Conduicy will take on Alda.  Unless it's doing so already?

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Black John in a tutu ... *spits popcorn through the air and wins the contest without even trying*. Amy, you do know that Johnny is really hairy, like in back, shoulders, even his foot soles? *slaps choking amy on her back, popcorn fly through the air and amy is the new winner* good luck getting that mental picture out of your head ..... And for the record, I kept that mental picture civil, over a beer in a bar somewhere in the middle of Bellingham and Cleveland, it would've gotten way worse!

Apologies for slightly going off topic, but it's not as if njc has left me and K with many options ...... wink

But on that, and I doubt I'm only speaking for me here, keep that male perspective that I do forget or get wrong coming! You guys are doing great work!

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Again, it was Amy who set this up ... though if Jaylene is dressed the way Alda is in the catacombs, there are at least a couple layers of clothing there.  Step along now, nothing to see.

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Amy set it up AND completely forgot about the crowd.  And a prison of all places! But I think it's safe to say she's well aware of it now ....  If I had an easy fix, I'd be sharing, but personally can't see Jaylene going in wearing anything more than underwear unfortunately ... So your comments about keeping it brief to show she's earned their respect is the best outcome IMO.

And to be honest, they will find someone in Hollywood to play the part too. Compared to 50 shades, this is tame.

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And also, so did I when I did the review!

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So an under-layer is showing through.  Read Fishing in the Catacombs.  It's a hoot--a hoot an' a holler.

(Hoot-and-holler is phone tech jargon for a line without a dial that rings the other end as soon as it is taken off hook.)

WAIT!  Where is Fishing?  I can't find it anywhere. Amy, did you withdraw it?

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Janet's characters would think a tutu was an oversized neck ruff.