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They resurrected Frank Poole, the co-pilot of the Discovery, in one of those books. Found him adrift in space. Not sure how it ended.

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Hmm. There's a wrinkle related to taking God out of my Galaxy Tales books. Young Joseph and young Apollo both know who the Christian God is (for Apollo, it's through his mother, a Christian), and hearing a voice claiming to be God is not uncommon depending on your type of mental illness and the severity of it. Naturally, prophets of old also heard God. That meant I had an actual mystery: Are the boys really hearing God or is it all in their imagination?

But what reader is going to suspend disbelief when two potentially ill cousins both start hearing Saint Michael the Archangel, albeit starting at different times in their lives? Doesn't work. Even with two different archangels, it seems highly unlikely that two mentally ill boys growing up light years apart in entirely different societies would both start hearing archangels when there are so many other major biblical characters to choose from (e.g., Adam, Moses, David, etc.). Theoretically, Apollo could hear a Roman god, but that breaks the story completely, and I'm targeting a Christian audience.

One possibility is that Joseph and Apollo are in contact over Galaxinet from a young age, and Joseph (who is older) mentions St. Michael because that's who he's secretly hearing, and then Apollo starts to hear an archangel, too, but maybe a different one. That would allow me to use a simple, catchy series title like War of the Archangels or something similar. I don't know how to pull it off, though, since chapter one (their first appearance) is already complicated with a fast forward through three time periods, four ages for the boys, and the introduction of the supernatural being(s) for both. I had a bitch of a time making all of that understandable. Now throw in a war of words in the interstellar Royals Forum when the reader barely knows who they are, how they're related, and what age they are relative to each other while they're arguing.

Thoughts?

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v4 notes
What about this? A new mental illness, called Archangel Syndrome, regularly appears among the galaxy's ruling elite in which the afflicted hear archangels promising galactic peace. It's believed to be caused by too much inbreeding among ruling families. The real cause is Dr. Jorge B. Francis messing with the past. There is, of course, no known cure. The afflicted are encouraged to resist the archangels. Apollo naturally assumes he has the condition and keeps the archangel a secret since it could get him killed by his family, who subscribe to the motto "Only the mentally fit shall rule!" Joseph first hears an archangel (and his dead grandmother) at age four, before he knows about the syndrome. They encourage him to keep it a secret. When he does finally hear about the syndrome, he decides, based on his Christian background, that it's not really an illness, just God trying to save the galaxy. Apollo will hear the Archangel Gabriel and Joseph will hear the Archangel Michael. Dr. Francis will need technology to pull this off, otherwise he would have to impersonate all of the archangels and dead characters himself, around the clock. That's a better job for a computer. Hence the AI that serves as a galactic news anchor.

Since there is no useful link between Aussie from the prologue and the news anchor AI, I'll probably remove Aussie from the story completely, which eliminates the nonsense from the prologue and some of the excessive violence. Sorry, Janet. I just need a name for the AI. It should either suggest a link to the archangels (e.g., Angel) and/or a link to Dr. Francis (e.g., Francis).

Anyone have a better name?

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Actually, I'm a little curious if it needs a name. Why not just have the voices like before? Is there some advantage to framing it in this way?

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I don't want to refer to it as simply the News AI. I want it to identify itself at the opening of every broadcast. "This is XXX from GNN reporting to you from..." Also, I want a name that gives a clue that it's behind the voices. It will also drop hints during the broadcasts.

As for Joseph and Apollo, I'm replacing God with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel because many of the things God says in v3 would piss off my target audience. I'm also adding Apollo's dead best friend, Germanus, into his head. Andrew and Germanus will do the humor. The archangels will range from friendly to serious depending on circumstances, and God/Jesus will only appear for major serious events, perhaps once or twice per book.

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K, did you mean that I should just name the voices Archangel? Giving them distinct names eliminates the problem of who is conversing with Apollo/Joseph in chapters where they appear together. I've had reviewers tell me that it confuses them because they expected God to be talking to both in those chapters, which is understandable but breaks POV.

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The syndrome... does it need a name? I hasn't had one in v2 or v3. I was wondering what leverage naming it gives you

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Every illness has a name. This one, in particular, is limited to hearing archangels. It helps explain why Joseph and Apollo are both hearing archangels, which is a huge coincidence that needs to be explained. Also, the fact that there is no cure for this particular mental illness (since its real cause is Dr. Francis) means that I don't have to justify so much why neither kid is pursuing a cure.

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My next chapter, The Christian Heresy Revealed, is up. It's a cleaned up version of the same chapter from v2. I incorporated everyone's edits and trimmed quite a bit. This chapter will be heavily rewritten in a future draft to conform Joseph's musings more closely with Anglicanism, which most closely reflects his old life (crown prince of a world with a monarchy that leads the Church).

Quick, go read!
Dirk

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I read the para but I’m confused where it would go. I’m assuming this is just a note to yourself to stage the ground rules.

Here’s my thoughts.
Arc angel syndrome isn’t a valid code for a handful of cases in a royal family. The specifics of the syndrome is a delusion, like a schizophrenia or flight of ideas. And a true psych issue can’t be hidden., which leads me to wonder if it is caused by an outside force.

Distancing from god has to happen in the story, not in the big reveal at the end of the book. The reasoning is moot when you try to separate it at the end. The syndrome would have to be mentioned often and loudly through the story, enough that it might give away the ending. Tough call either way.

Suggestion: seraphim syndrome.

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Thanks, Amy. Yes, it's a note to myself. The details will be rolled out in chapter one, with the introduction of Joseph & Apollo at various ages.

Archangel Syndrome is a relatively common disease among the ruling class across the galaxy, and it happens to involve hearing archangels instead of God, hence its unique name. Since the advanced biotechnology and instantaneous interstellar communication needed to fake something like this doesn't exist yet in the 4017, no one questions it as anything but a real, bizarre illness. In reality, it's accomplished using tech from AD 7329.

As you saw in v3, there are plenty of places where Joseph and Apollo either act out inappropriately (e.g., Apollo's head jolting) or mumble conversations out loud. God won't appear in the story, except perhaps at one or two extreme moments in each book (TBD).

Seraphim are a higher class of angels than archangels, but they're limited to constantly worshiping God on his throne. Archangels appear on earth to intervene in human events, hence the reason I chose them.

I don't know what to do about revealing the secret cause of this illness, since it's currently meant to remain hidden until the end of book two or three. One possibility is to reveal it at end of book one, then have Joseph and Apollo cooperate with Dr. Francis in future books. Ponder I will.

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Hope I helped

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You did indeed. Thank you. I just received a mountain of regular reviews from Andrew Hixson for the beginning of v3. He loved the two opening chapters, including the one spread over three different time periods that introduces Joseph and Apollo at two ages each, and introduces God and Admiral St. James's ghost. He didn't like the Great Collapse of Civilization at all. Thought it was filler. It's probably because it comes too early in the story (K's complaint), but the Galaxinet articles have to occur in a certain order among the early chapters, and I'm keeping all three until my reviewers beat me to death. Dr. Ess rocks! Nor did he like Apollo's opening chapter in the gym fighting Kobayashi. Not sure what was wrong with that one.

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I noticed that all of Andrew's reviews are 50-60 words. I can tell he read at least some of each chapter, but I'm not sure if he's in it for points (which I'm fine with) or whether I should try to reciprocate when I have so little time to respond to drive-by reviews. None of his reviews so far (about eight) will lead to any changes in a future draft. Has anyone else been reviewed by him?

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Got one for 403's chapter 1

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Note to self: Seabrass says to be sure to give the archangels flaws and the possibility of failure.

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I watched another episode of Gilligan's Island last night. They were packing, thinking they were sure to be rescued. The Skipper was packing his clothes, including numerous shirts of different colors. I think I even saw a pajama top. What's wrong with that scene?

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heh

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My retirement account is getting killed by the looming trade war. I bought Boeing the day before Trump announced the first tariffs. Down 12% since then. I console myself with the fact that no one ever went broke buying their stock. Of course that used to be true of GE, too.

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Do they have index funds in the True North?

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It's my IRA. Canada got hammered as well, but not as much.

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That's why I use low-cost mutual funds, mostly indexed.  But Canada's securities laws may not allow such things.

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I use Vanguard high dividend index funds for most of the money, but wanted specific stocks as well to buy and hold long term.

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njc wrote:

That's why I use low-cost mutual funds, mostly indexed.  But Canada's securities laws may not allow such things.

The typical mutual fund in Canada has a 2% management fee. In my US IRA, I pay as little as 0.04% for an index fund.

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I stuck most of my retirement into low risk bonds. Figured the honeymoon period in the stock market is going to end soon