Re: The Galaxy Tales - Dirk B.
I'm not rooting for him because I've been told it's a sham. I can't say my unbiased opinion becauseI'm tainted
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I'm not rooting for him because I've been told it's a sham. I can't say my unbiased opinion becauseI'm tainted
I'm trying to describe the crazy naming conventions for the Imperial Family that I lifted (and simplified) from Roman history. Following is the tentative description to tack on to the end of the Galactipedia - Rise of the Julii article. It comes immediately before the chapter where the reader first meets the Imperator and Imperatrix. Is it intelligible?
Although naming conventions used by the Imperial Family have varied greatly over two thousand years, they currently follow a comparatively simple format: title praenomen nomen cognomen1 [cognomen2] suffix.
title is one of Imperator for the emperor, Imperatrix for the empress, or Heres Imperialis for the Imperial heir. praenomen is the first or given name. nomen is the family name and has remained Julius since the founding of the Imperium. cognomina are further honorifics for the titled individuals. Individuals are usually addressed by their cognomina rather than by title.
For example, the current heir is Heres Imperialis Apollo Julius Caesar III. Apollo is his given name and Julius his family name. Caesar is an honorific bestowed upon the Heres Imperialis at birth (or upon adoption, when there is no natural male heir). Apollo is addressed by his given name by those close to him. Otherwise, he is addressed as Caesar. He is the third Imperial heir named Apollo.
When the Heres Imperialis takes the throne, he adds Augustus as a second cognomen and is addressed as such. The current emperor is Imperator Nero Julius Caesar Augustus V. His given name is Nero, but he is usually addressed as Augustus, even by his sons.
The current empress is Imperatrix Elizabeth Julius Augusta, and she is addressed as Augusta.
Hmm. Having Apollo, Augustus, and Augusta in the same scene makes for a lot of 'A' names.
Apollo and Augustus shouldn't be a problem. AugustA is another matter. I don't suppose you can have people call her Gussie?
LOL. Augusta doesn't come up much. It's primarily Apollo and Augustus. I was going to have Apollo think of him as Augustus (or father), but that was out of control. From now on, I only use Augustus in speech. When he's thinking about him, it's either Imperator or father.
I still have to square this with Joseph's side of the story. He currently thinks of his mother as mother or Mary, and his father as father or Alexander, rather than by their royal titles (Regent and Royal Consort).
Question. Apologies if I've asked this before.
Apollo is always accompanied by a quartet of guards (the Candidatii). I'm trying to decide if I always need to say they're with him, or if it's sufficient to say once they're always with him and then maybe an occasional reminder that they're there. If I did the latter, would the reader think they're not always with him? I forget at times that they're supposed to be with him when I write his scenes, so I had to add it to my chapter checklist to be sure they're included.
Seabrass's story of Lake-Ellen includes a staff called Dandelion that she uses for defense, and he always mentions it's with her. I can't recall how often Tolkien wrote about Gandalf's staff.
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Dirk
They need to be mentioned in each scene, placed where they are in the room, and
A sentence added with a guard-like activity. They are props. Even if they sneeze or blow their noses, they need a small vignette in the chapter.
I guess that means everywhere he goes, I have to mention that they go with him. Ugh. Apollo's knife is a prop too, yet I only mention it when it's relevant.
a) IMO You don't have to say 100% time "Hey there's guards"... saying "They walked down the hall" instead of "he walked down the hall" would suffice.
b) Rebecca has had great success in naming 2 of the honourguard such that they can interact with the scene a little. This is great for keeping them valid.
c) I know I couldn't pull this off. You mean there are 4 cannon fodder characters hanging around? They'd be dead within 2 chapters, I promise.
d) He has a knife??
a) IMO You don't have to say 100% time "Hey there's guards"... saying "They walked down the hall" instead of "he walked down the hall" would suffice.
Apollo left his suite and they walked down the hall. Doesn't really work. I'll fool around with it.
b) Rebecca has had great success in naming 2 of the honourguard such that they can interact with the scene a little. This is great for keeping them valid.
I totally forgot that Captain Lucilius is head of his Candidatii detail. Duh.
c) I know I couldn't pull this off. You mean there are 4 cannon fodder characters hanging around? They'd be dead within 2 chapters, I promise.
Soon. I promise. The Imperator has 8, the Imperatrix has 4, and Apollo has 4. That doesn't include the regular guards posted around the palace. And then there's the guards who launch the suicide strike. I may need some molten grenades. Crispers ain't gonna to be enough.
d) He has a knife??
Nuts. Too much time between posts. Apollo always had a knife. Granted, he's no Maud'Dib. This time around I gave them to the whole Imperial Family.
Batter up! New Apollo chapter is up, called Plans Within Plans. It's a redo of William the Conqueror from v2. About 1/3 is new material.
Also, I added a summary on Imperial Family naming conventions to the end of the Galactipedia - Rise of the Julii article. It's a small change, so I didn't republish for points, but it helps navigate the naming conventions going forward.
Quick, go read!
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Dirk
K, I gather you weren't a fan of Acme, Inc. in the latest chapter. Is it because the chapter is relatively serious, or just a general dislike of Acme? So far, I've used it as the manufacturer of wisethings, droids, crispers, interstellar drones, and sound scramblers. It's meant to be a running gag the same way Mama's Little Shipping ships everything, including pizza and sewage. Speaking of nonsense in a serious chapter, there is the appearance of Aussie in chapter one. Like? Dislike?
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Dirk
The company name doesn't fit into the tapestry you've woven. It's like that one pesky red thread that sticks out.
I presume it's like my use of the word "Internet" suddenly in VQF. I've contemplated references to some of the other major brands of today, but I'm so far in the future, I can't see any of those companies surviving. My setting experiences (social) entropic loss. This is to say, the broad message is cultures tend to boil down to nothingness over time, barring brief spikes of inserted energy. This is true of the others such as Star Wars where basically tech hasn't much improved in the past thousand years and there seems to be no will to move forward, and Enders Game where it took an alien invasion to get mankind to stir.
Your setting is one of renewal where old things become new again. This is quite unusual in sci-fi (quick: name all the movies/shows in the last 30 years with a greco-roman, mayan/aztec, Prussian, Babylonian, you-name-the-empire cast in space. Done? Off the top of my head, I only came up with Star Gate). As a result of this scarcity, you're going to have to do unusual things like have a company called Acme.
Side note: In VQ, Arkaya Corp is my equivalent of Acme. They made the droids that hunt Andrea down in her chapter one, and run the waste disposal company in Laurie's story. They so this and much more through a vast series of subsidiary companies. I've devoted significant page space to joining all these companies up, but you might want to go that route if you decide against Acme.
As for chapter one, my thoughts of the AI remain the same. I haven't commented that because I don't want to prompt you into an editing spree on a chapter one. Not until you write those other words "the end". I think a good chapter one is finalized after the last chapter is set in stong. The two chapters should reflect each other in theme, style & tone (reflect -- not rival)
Hope this helps
I'd love it if you comment on chapter one, since there will be scenes dedicated to Aussie, assuming I keep it. I'm debating keeping most of the nonsense limited to the epigraphs and Galactipedia, although there is a lot of nonsense, so I'm not sure it will work (e.g., the taxi ride with Leonardo). I may move the Acme references to Galactipedia. Again, not sure it will work. I think it needs its own Galactipedia article.
Galaxy Tale, for me, feels like a serious epic. You have the destiny of kings, the fate of mankind, a machiavellian God, so the running gags get a little lost on me. Not that you can't have humour. Fred Saberhagen's Berserker had very funny moments, which helped build character and mood.
Like I've mentioned a few times, the only issue I have with ACME is its modern day connotations. it's Greek meaning makes it a worthy corp-name but as it stands ACME INC really grinds at a Scifi reader. For such a small aspect of the story, it can do so much damage to the world building. Maybe if you add another Greek work to it and latinise the Incorporated. Or at least explain the hell out of it from the outset. [Acme ˈakmi/ noun the point at which something is at its best or most highly developed. "physics is the acme of scientific knowledge"] As a kid watching roadrunner I never knew Acme was the greek word akmi, nor did I realise Eureka was the words 'to vríka', and these are word we commonly used. So a face-smacking expose on the high-tech corporation in the early chapters would suffice.
With Aussie, as long as this character plays an integral part of the plot, then this character is intriguing. If Aussie is inconsequential to the story then it becomes another complexity a reader has to follow without any payoff.
Thanks K, Bill. The original idea was to explain Acme in a Galactipedia article about interstellar travel. A. Hinkley (a riff on R. Hinkley, the Gilligan's Island professor) discovers the starlanes, builds the first stardrive, founds Acme, which eventually becomes a galaxy-spanning monopoly. Unfortunately, that Galactipedia article won't appear until late in Act I, so I would be using Acme (or some other name) unexplained for a dozen chapters. Acme has the advantage of being slightly silly (too much, from what you're telling) and somewhat self-explanatory.
The three options I can see are:
1. Get rid of Acme altogether.
2. Include a sentence early on explaining that Acme is a galactic tech monopoly, and expand on it before the end of Act I.
3. Rename it to something unique to my story (like Mama's Little Shipping) and, if needed, explain it briefly up front.
I'm leaning toward 3.
I can't use Latin, Bill, since Latin implies the Imperium, whereas the tech company also sells to the Realm.
Possible names so far:
1. Monopoly, Inc.
2. Warheads and Toys Corporation (Wartoys Corp.)
3. The Company, Inc.
So far, I like 2 the best.
1 is good as it needs no explaining, but it may remind the reader of the board game everytime I refer to it.
I could use the short form for 2 (Wartoys Corp.) after first introducing the full name. The name Wartoys seems acceptable on its face as a potential defense contractor, but becomes a subtle gag as the book progresses and I add more and more stuff that they make.
3 is meh.
Thoughts?
Warheads & Toys Corporation (Wartoys Corp.) wins.
With Aussie, as long as this character plays an integral part of the plot, then this character is intriguing. If Aussie is inconsequential to the story then it becomes another complexity a reader has to follow without any payoff.
It's intended as a background character that shows up in news reports, blamed for murder and mayhem, but is not seen until the second-to-last chapter. Mostly there for fun, to keep the reader guessing what it'll do next.
Your story is so tongue in cheek throughout, and I see it as being a little like The Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy. That said, as you add color and dimension to the book, there is a serious story and good action driving the plot, so it gets a lot less silly.
You are going to have to choose, I think. Serious drama vs Black Comedy.
I've read most of the latest chapter and it is so much better than before. I get a sense of the surroundings, the flow of people, and the chaos surrounding Apollo. This is drastically better. Worlds better. So as you add depth, you move away from the spoof. Like I said, you need to choose.
And stop head hopping. Please. It is still everywhere.
Thanks, Amy. Please let me know where you think I'm head hopping. No one else has said a peep about that.
Wartoys Corp. (still tweaking the name) is less silly/contemporary than Acme, so I'm okay with it. It's on par with Mama's Little Shipping, I think. I refer to it in the latest chapter (for the sound scrambler) at a point where things have not yet heated up in that chapter. I wouldn't use it in the second half, for example (e.g., for the maker of gladiatorial armor, swords, etc.).
Not sure what to do about silly vs. not. The latest chapter needed to be serious, otherwise it wouldn't work. But the book can't be too serious, otherwise there's no role for Andrew, Mama, Leonardo, Lady Kay, Patient Janet, etc. This book, while broad in scope, will never be Dune.
I'm still up in the air about Aussie. I frequently use the epigraphs for humor, hence the reason she appears there and not in the actual chapters. If I keep her, she'll make one physical appearance in the story near the end.
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