Topic: How to insert "foreign" characters?

In my novel I am posting now, I absolutely rely on Japanese characters, either singly or as a group.  How can I enter these into the editing box?  I see them as they are entered but when the chapter is published, they turn into "?".  This ruins the flow of my chapter.  Any help here, Sol?

Tom

Re: How to insert "foreign" characters?

Tom Oldman wrote:

In my novel I am posting now, I absolutely rely on Japanese characters, either singly or as a group.  How can I enter these into the editing box?  I see them as they are entered but when the chapter is published, they turn into "?".  This ruins the flow of my chapter.  Any help here, Sol?

Tom

In theory, if the MS-Word import really worked properly it would be converted to the appropriate HTML language the editor uses, but from what I can tell the import process strips almost all the MS-Word-embedded codes (which are cumbersome and redundant) down to very basic HTML that does not even include centering, for example.  What I have done for a fix is export Word Doc to HTML (Web page, filtered), take that into ASCII editor like Notepad, cut and paste into TNBW editor set to "Source"  and you should be able to see the symbols used for the Japanese characters in the HTML (source) editor and the Japanese characters when the editor is switched back to the normal mode. However, whether or not those symbols will be displayed as Japanese characters in the final published display is not known to me; I know German characters like the umlaut are. This last may be your problem even if Word docs were properly imported if the Japanese characters are simply not supported in published TNBW pages.

3 (edited by Tom Oldman 2014-12-09 00:54:37)

Re: How to insert "foreign" characters?

Thanks, Charles.  I'd pretty much come to that conclusion also.  I do know HTML (I design web sites) and have tried to insert HTML in the "source", but it doesn't seem to accept the font selected nor the actualy 0xnnnn code for the character.  I think I am doomed to using something like [the Japanese character for "5"] in place of the actual character of '五'.

EDIT: Well, that is certainly interesting.  I can insert Japanese characters into the forum software, but not into the actual novel editing software.  Something isn't right here.

Tom

Re: How to insert "foreign" characters?

You could convert the characters into images and hyperlink them in the story body

Re: How to insert "foreign" characters?

Yeah, that is one option also.  Messy, but it can be done.  I might have to do that for some of my text as it contains quite a few characters.  Luckily, I have my own web site that I can host the images on.

Tom

Re: How to insert "foreign" characters?

Tom Oldman wrote:

Thanks, Charles.  I'd pretty much come to that conclusion also.  I do know HTML (I design web sites) and have tried to insert HTML in the "source", but it doesn't seem to accept the font selected nor the actualy 0xnnnn code for the character.  I think I am doomed to using something like [the Japanese character for "5"] in place of the actual character of '五'.

EDIT: Well, that is certainly interesting.  I can insert Japanese characters into the forum software, but not into the actual novel editing software.  Something isn't right here.

Tom

Yeah.  I noticed that.  So I think there is something wrong with the publishing editing software.  I mean: why would it claim to import Word and not do it very well.

Re: How to insert "foreign" characters?

Yeah.  I noticed that.  So I think there is something wrong with the publishing editing software.  I mean: why would it claim to import Word and not do it very well.

It is very, very difficult to import Word documents and format them properly for html across all the different versions of Word, operating system, browsers, etc. We import Word, clean it, and then output it as clean html. For most standard text, this works great. The forum does not do this and if you started pasting Word documents into it, you would quickly run into many formatting problems.

We can see about not stripping out certain elements like foreign language symbols.

Sol

8 (edited by Tom Oldman 2014-12-09 01:16:51)

Re: How to insert "foreign" characters?

Well, Sol, if it would make your life easier, I just tested KHippolite's input method and it worked a charm.  I've inserted my character as a jpg image with just a slight widening of the spacing in the paragraph in which it appears.  So, there isn't any real hurry (on my part, anyway) to do this.

EDIT:  also, Sol.  The characters themselves reside in their own fonts and are called out as "normal" when actually in that font.  Whereas Word will setup that font you used in the header for the document, I can see where that would be a nighmare to try and gather up all those fonts so just one character can be inserted.  If the native language, in my case, Japanese, were used, then the whole document would translate properly (I think).

Tom