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(17 replies, posted in Writers Afar)

I like the concept/rules as have been discussed here. I particularly like the idea of having members submit work in any genre they please. My other thought is that we try a kind of practice round, where we complete one full cycle (three weeks), i.e., one piece of work, before starting a second cycle, so that we all get a sense of how things will work from start to finish in this particular setting. The idea of reviewing the reviewers comments is new to me. I see that as potentially helping us all improve our ability to review; it also has the potential to provide a deeper analysis of the piece of work being reviewed in that cycle, which seems a key point to the whole process. I am interested in how this will play out. I think in  this initial stage if we tried to start a second and third cycle while the first cycle is ongoing, some of us may lose track of things because most of us may be new to this particular format. Once we get a better sense of how things work, how best to organize ourselves, understand the time factor and the process, etc., and we have another go at tweaking things, we could then (in this scenario) start a normal rotation (either starting a new cycle every week or every two weeks or whatever is decided--probably based on the amount of work in the queue at the time). Here's a copy of that initial foundation:

I would like to be part of a group of from 12 to 15 members that adapted the basic structure of the in-person group to fit TNBW’s capabilities.
I see the reviewing to be conducted as follows:
1.    During week 1: 14 members receive a work with 5 of the members assigned to review it.
2.    During week 2: 5 different members review the work and review the reviews submitted by the first 5 members.
3.    During week 3: 4 remaining members and the author review all the reviews and all the reviews of the reviews. And the author thanks the reviewers by telling them what waves the stones they had cast into his pond caused.
The groups of 5 would revolve each week and a new piece would enter the spotlight each week. The spotlight would shine on the pieces in the order they were received.

Interesting topics. The use of literal versus figurative made me think more about why people use 'literal' in place of 'figurative' at times and why it does make sense from a certain perspective.  I've always seen that as kind of 'in place of an exclamation mark' or  as an extension of a metaphor when you want to make your case that much stronger. For example.

.... I'm gonna kill you, man. I'm serious. (or  ... I'm gonna kill you, man. Literally.)
... I'm gonna kill you, man. I'm not serious. (or ...I'm gonna kill you, man. Figuratively.)

It's impossible to know without the full context of the discussion whether the first statement is serious at all. But with the context, you would know. This person is saying to his friend, for example, that he's upset his friend isn't going to be helping with something after the friend had committed to helping. So we know he's not literally serious about killing his friend. But he's so upset about his friend flaking out on the 'deal', that he says "I'm serious" to let his friend know just how upset he really is... If he were to say "I'm not serious", it doesn't convey the same thing, even though it is technically correct. He is not going to kill his friend, but he's trying to say, 'I was really counting on your help and you've let everyone down" type of thing.

Anyway, just my interpretation of why people may sometimes use 'literally' in place of 'figuratively'.

Another topic: The psychology aspect of the language bully discussion is pretty interesting. It seems to underscore ways in which we might be more versus less helpful in a writing workshop environment.

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(8 replies, posted in Short Fiction and Non-Fiction)

Terrific christmas card. This would be very tough to match. Okay, so why do you hang your diploma in the bathroom? Love it, and congrats on the achievement. I'm going to start saying Holy Cow Pies from now on, especially playing table tennis. We usually say something like  'you snake in the grass' when something goes bad, but I'm going to throw them off with holy cow pies. Might get me an extra point or two. Hey, maybe instead of saying that D word, we can say D-star-star-M it!--- or would that still be considered crossing the line?