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Laws requiring businesses to prove they are paying men and women equally have recently come into force in Iceland.

The only country in the world where is it now illegal to pay a female less than a male for doing the same job!

Such a simple 'no brainer' law and it is 2018 and there is only one country enforcing this?

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Dill Carver wrote:

Laws requiring businesses to prove they are paying men and women equally have recently come into force in Iceland.

The only country in the world where is it now illegal to pay a female less than a male for doing the same job!

Such a simple 'no brainer' law and it is 2018 and there is only one country enforcing this?

A few years ago I called a peer of mine (male, same age, hired five years after me) & told him my salary. I asked him if I had a reason to call my boss and demand more equal pay. He didn't want to tell me his salary (fairly enough), but he told me to fight. Apparently I was far under him (same job title). It's insanity.

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corra wrote:
Dill Carver wrote:

Laws requiring businesses to prove they are paying men and women equally have recently come into force in Iceland.

The only country in the world where is it now illegal to pay a female less than a male for doing the same job!

Such a simple 'no brainer' law and it is 2018 and there is only one country enforcing this?

A few years ago I called a peer of mine (male, same age, hired five years after me) & told him my salary. I asked him if I had a reason to call my boss and demand more equal pay. He didn't want to tell me his salary (fairly enough), but he told me to fight. Apparently I was far under him (same job title). It's insanity.

I work alongside female colleagues who are paid significantly less than me for doing the same role. It is a French parent company and a such a division is considered normal. We have broached equal pay, departmentally on several occasions but upper management is petrified that it would set a precedent across the entire company. 

I'm not sure if this is 2018 or 1818 smile

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It is a French parent company and a such a division is considered normal.

French! roll

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It is going backwards. The two previous (UK) companies that I worked for followed a meticulous policy of equal pay and I think that generally the UK is ahead of most countries in terms of equality.  The problem is at the moment we are in the EU and such law is passed by a central European government (non-elected). Because the EU is a federation of 28 countries, when it comes to places like Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Latvia, Bulgaria, Lithuania and Croatia the differential between gender pay rates can be 30 to 40%. Business runs upon fine margins and to  bring these immediately in line with equal pay would bankrupt industry etc. Hence the EU has to accommodate the lowest common denominator and cannot introduce an equal pay law.

The UK can pass a pay equality law, but only once they've left the EU. Hence Brexit, which if you support, you are labeled a fascist, Nazi, racist, sexist thug by the Liberals.  Can't win. Much like tBNW forums.

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You make a good case for Brexit. I haven't done the research because I didn't have a vote on it smile but honestly I imagine I'd have voted for it. It sounds like your country is as split on that as ours in Trump vs. Clinton. The ones in the middle here (don't want either, didn't vote for either) are scorned for voting third party, or for not voting, or for not choosing a side and fighting to the floor over it. Friends against friends, families so split that it's easier to say nothing than fight about it. At work we cannot even mention politics.

I don't know why it's necessary to get imperious about it. I don't mind being told one's position (at all. I love hearing different perspectives and value those few friends who can calmly share theirs), but I dislike an imperious stance. I think the majority is imperious, which is a real shame. No one listens to imperious. They are the Know-Nothing Party of the 21st century.

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Brexit is a very deep and complex thing. Although at the highest, simplest level I imagine that if the American continent was federated and all those countries had free and open migratory access and citizens rights (including welfare) within each others countries, with the whole thing ruled and governed from a non-elected government in Columbia...  that the majority of USA citizens would be anti the arrangement whilst the Mexicans, Nicaraguans, Costa Rican's et al would be very pro the arrangement. Especially so if a huge chunk of the USA tax dollar goes to those other countries for their advancement?

Of course the sanctimonious global-liberal would in a act of outraged indignation, would automatically condemn the USAEXIT voters as callous Nazi, Sexist, Racisits; as is within their mantra, the only perceived alternate to a fellow Liberal.

Of course as history shows time and again, all the federations and annexations of long established counties into newly formed empires or blocs always ends in a breakdown with every country seeking to regain its sovereignty, identity, nationality, Independence and autonomy. We hate our governments... until we lose them. Then we want self-government back.

Why should we ever learn from history?

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Dill Carver wrote:

Why should we ever learn from history?

Indeed.