Re: WHAT ARE YOU READING RIGHT NOW?
I'm reading the first in the series of The Lymond Chronicles.....
You are in the right place for Historical Fiction fans. Please let us know how you find the read. Cheers!
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I'm reading the first in the series of The Lymond Chronicles.....
You are in the right place for Historical Fiction fans. Please let us know how you find the read. Cheers!
I've just picked up;
No Place for Ladies: The Untold Story of Women in the Crimean War by Helen Rappaport.
I've just picked up;
No Place for Ladies: The Untold Story of Women in the Crimean War by Helen Rappaport.
Added to my list!
I've just finished Ruth's Journey: The Authorized Novel of Mammy from Margaret Mitchell's Gone with the Wind.
I'm beginning The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman by Ernest J. Gaines.
& my library copy of State of Jones by Sally Jenkins just came in! Thanks for that suggestion!
I'm reading the first in the series of The Lymond Chronicles. This is my second try with this book. I've heard great things about the series. Even better than Outlander, so I'm told. Reviews from major news sources are glowing. I love the genre - historical fiction, set in 16th century Scotland, a handsome hero. What's not to like. Fingers crossed.
Oooh, I hadn't heard of these books. No Outlander spoilers, please.
My sister is after me to read the whole series. I haven't made time yet!
Thanks for the tip on The Lymond Chronicles. Have you tried Susanna Kearsley? I'm reading The Rose Garden by her. You might enjoy it. I think it's also been compared to Outlander. I always skim the comparisons so I won't hit a spoiler, ha!
A Legacy of Spies. by John le Carré.
A new novel; from the past. My favourite author reaffirmed.
A Legacy of Spies. by John le Carré.
A new novel; from the past. My favourite author reaffirmed.
Hi! I'm glad he's got another out for you! I bet it would be amazing to meet him and ask for a signature for your collection.
I've been a little scattered lately: dipping in & out of books. I can't quite settle. This morning I grabbed a copy of John Brown's Body by Stephen Vincent Benét to read on my lunch break. I started it a while ago & set it aside for the right time. I think that time is here! The air is chilled and the leaves are aflame, & that seems to be Benét time.
I find it absolutely GORGEOUS. SO MANY good passages. I'll have to capture a couple here when I complete the book. It's my own copy so I am ravenously writing all over it, circling the best parts & jotting my remarks in the margins. I think it might end up my favorite read of the year.
I may have to set it aside this week to read a couple titles for work. It will keep! x
....Anyway, I've just started to watch Ken Burns documentary series upon the Vietnam War... Only 5 mins in, but I have great expectations. x
Wow! They say this documentary took ten years to make. As well as the conflict in-situ it takes in the home front and political accounts during the entire period. To me, a dumb and ignorant Englander, this is totally fascinating... a million things I never knew about American modern history! Incredible. I'm looking at a different version of the world now.
Dill Carver wrote:A Legacy of Spies. by John le Carré.
A new novel; from the past. My favourite author reaffirmed.
Hi!
I'm glad he's got another out for you.... x
I swallowed it whole; couldn't put it down. Nearly killed myself with sleep deprivation and motorway driving.
I love the way he writes; the voice and the unfurling of a story. This is an old story revisited in the modern age by way of an investigation. I know the old story very well and to see it dissected from a different POV in a new era is quite fascinating. Deja vu prevails with the sense of the familiar.
How the defeated (smashed) West and East Germany of post WWII 1950's has rejuvenated, reunified and risen to control Europe, anyway, by 2010 is a truth that would be hard to believe if it were fiction.
Thanks for your feedback on the Vietnam special, Dill. I'm planning to watch it with my mother. Her brother (my uncle) was in Vietnam.
A couple days ago I began a book by Karl Marlantes (author of Matterhorn) called What It Is Like To Go To War. I cannot imagine that a memoir comes close to the actual experience.
Is The Constant Gardener still your favorite by John le Carré? I have it on my list. x
I watched Ken Burns Vietnam documentary episode by episode (there are ten). It is eighteen hours long. Quite an investment, but I thought it was worth it. There is so much I never knew.
Is The Constant Gardener still your favorite by John le Carré? I have it on my list. x
Oh, my word! The Constant Gardener. I had never been so moved by a novel when I first read it. Totally absorbing, it made me smile, I felt genuine happiness, grief, outrage, anger and compassion. It shook me to the core.
It is an oddity amongst le Carré novels because it is a love story above all else. Pure unconditional love and it breaks my heart.
Many critics pan it. Other readers shun or dismiss it. Me? I love it. It was written for me; my kind of story. Totally. People rave about the likes of 'to Kill a Mocking Bird' and Tess of the D'urbervilles but these books are shallow drivel compared to the Constant Gardener, IMO
Ralph Fiennes and Rachel Weisz are brilliantly cast as Justin and Tessa Quayle in the movie. I prefer the novel but the film is well worth watching. Fiennes is great in the role.
(We will arm wrestle over To Kill a Mockingbird. I will so win.)
There will be no contest. Once you feel the sheer depth, gravitas and wealth of the Constant Gardener; the heat and heady consciousnesses of it.. it will live inside of you forever and you will realize that To Kill a Mockingbird is just a shallow parable with cardboard characters and wonder how the world has been duped? To Kill a Mockingbird was just the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles of its day.
Your wrestling arm will be jello powered by feeble insecurities. Mine granite.
I had no idea I could speak so eloquently of my own defeat. I stand corrected.
Your insolence is absolved, corra. Walk in peace.
We're still taking Dill's arm though, right?
Whoops. I think that I must have hit the 'Edit' button on your post rather than 'Quote'??
What can I say? Perhaps you should report me to the moderator again?
Hello, I just started The Time Traveler's Wife. Has anyone read it?
Hello, I just started The Time Traveler's Wife. Has anyone read it?
I've read that one three times! I think it's quite imaginative! Hope you enjoy it.
... you will realize that To Kill a Mockingbird is just a shallow parable with cardboard characters and wonder how the world has been duped? To Kill a Mockingbird was just the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles of its day.
Your wrestling arm will be jello powered by feeble insecurities. Mine granite.
A history major acquaintance of mine once lectured me on my love of Gone with the Wind. (He made an argument similar to your argument about To Kill a Mockingbird.) It came to blows, & naturally I won. When he limped to shake my hand & concede defeat, he stumblingly suggested I try T.S. Stribling's The Store for a more honest presentation of the South during Reconstruction. It's set in 1880s Alabama, & was written during the same time To Kill a Mockingbird is set. Like GWTW & TKAM, & it also won the Pulitzer. It's on my list.
I don't see cardboard cut-outs in To Kill a Mockingbird. I see people. Real people, with flaws and strengths and contradictions. Calpurnia is certainly no more a complex character than Mammy in Gone with the Wind, but each is supposed to be seen through the perspective of another character (Scout, and Scarlett), and of course neither Scout nor Scarlett would see the full woman. It's interesting (to me) that seventy years is supposed to have passed between Scarlett and Scout, and still they see their respective Calpurnias as maternal figures without a prior history. Though (it's been a while, but I feel that Lee does give us some of Calpurnia's history? That might be in Go Set a Watchman. I can't remember.) Anyway, I'm not sure it's a BAD book because of this. My feeling is that Lee wanted to be honest by showing what Scout would have seen & not seen. I could be way off there, but the fact that she doesn't tell everything doesn't mean she (the author) didn't see it. I could definitely be convinced otherwise, but that's where I currently stand on that point.
Atticus is THE contradiction, for me. I feel that the fact that he is both heroic (in ways) and backward (in ways), and that we see him through Scout's jaded perspective -- is a VERY complicated and honest depiction of American heroism.
And sorry, Doc! I love the story too. I love Scout, Dill, Boo, and Jem. I like the earthy Southern feel -- the natural delivery, the sense of innocence before a fall. I love the writing style. I love that a big story is filtered through the flawed perspective of a little girl, who still views her own father as perfect & isn't aware at first that her hometown is more than what she's been taught -- a set of families divided by class and conduct -- a powder keg of fury awaiting a reason to become violent and develop the brain of a collective mob. That's one of my favorite things about it: Scout sees familiar faces she knows become strangers. It was written for 1960s America, as in, here's a little girl looking you people squarely in the eye, saying, "You are my neighbors. How can you become so violent?" Yet she does something similar with Boo. "Our happy little small Southern town seems idyllic, but look what we, any one of us, can become." I don't think Lee intended the novel to be the final word on the topic. I think instead she was writing ONE SENTENCE within a conversation she hoped would continue. I love that the novel came out just as the Civil Rights Movement in America was beginning. I appreciate that: the historical value of that. I appreciate that Lee gives us characters to take apart and assess.
The novel is a favorite of mine -- a salty, good bit of story-telling about a small Southern town living within a horrific time in Southern American history.
But -- I agree with you about its canonization in America. I don't think To Kill a Mockingbird should be touted as THE American book, nor should it be read without thinking. It is one of many perspectives on the American story, and I agree with you that it shouldn't be read blindly. At its time, it was revolutionary. At its time, it couldn't speak bluntly. Not if it hoped to be read.
Today it seems outdated in places. Not as a novel, for I still hold that Lee wanted to paint racism honestly -- that she wanted to SHOW that it can hide itself in plain sight. But if people read it without seeing that -- yes. It shouldn't be held up as some kind of last word on America. It's been almost sixty years. Others are able to speak now. People who actually experienced what Harper Lee tried to write about. People who live/d the racism Lee tried to bring to light. They should be in the American canon. They should be speaking in schools.
I think To Kill a Mockingbird could easily stand alongside other titles from the Civil Rights era (such as the work of Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr.) & make a rich discussion. What does Harper Lee want to accomplish with this book? What held her back? What does she get right for you, the reader? What does she get wrong? Does today's America see it? Why not?
That could be valuable way to read the novel. I also think a good hard look at Atticus could be valuable. I agree with your remarks on his character. I agree it's strange most people don't see it. I didn't see it on my first read, & that's ABSOLUTELY worth a good shred. I think it's dangerous to simply read him as a hero and go on with our merry lives. He should be dissected, & his place in American hearts should be questioned. That (for me) is why this is still a good book to have in schools. It goes back to our discussion (somewhere above) about Confederate monuments. Do we want to tear down Atticus & hide him away, or do we want to leave him up so we can learn from him?
To that point, I read an article by Alice Randall the other day about TKAM's place in schools, which I wanted to share with you. (Because she appears to see a lot of what you're arguing.) Here she argues that teaching To Kill a Mockingbird in schools requires a perceptive teacher. And here she argues that there is still something in To Kill a Mockingbird that may be worth teaching. Randall wrote the one sequel to Gone with the Wind I've actually liked: The Wind Done Gone. I find her fair but skeptical. She seems to question the place of Gone with the Wind in American hearts, rather than the novel itself. The legacy as opposed to the book. She does something similar with To Kill a Mockingbird -- suggesting we take a realistic look at it, rather than a romantic look. I feel that's what you're doing as well, & I appreciate your skepticism. I also appreciate your comments on Mayella Ewell in prior discussions.
... you will realize that To Kill a Mockingbird is just a shallow parable with cardboard characters and wonder how the world has been duped? To Kill a Mockingbird was just the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles of its day.
Your wrestling arm will be jello powered by feeble insecurities. Mine granite.
A history major acquaintance of mine once lectured me on my love of Gone with the Wind. (He made an argument similar to your argument about To Kill a Mockingbird.) It came to blows, & naturally I won. When he limped to shake my hand & concede defeat, he stumblingly suggested I try T.S. Stribling's The Store for a more honest presentation of the South during Reconstruction. It's set in 1880s Alabama, & was written during the same time To Kill a Mockingbird is set. Like GWTW & TKAM, & it also won the Pulitzer. It's on my list.
Corra,
In your study of Southern women writers, I think you may like Elizabeth Spencer a lot. I am getting ready to read her novel The Voice at the Back Door http://www.elizabethspencerwriter.com/w … ckdoor.htm again. I first read it 30 years ago and loved it. I was shelving books a few days ago and put this on my Read Soon shelf.
Memphis
Thank you for that, Memphis! I'll add her to my list!
"No time is ours but the present... and that is so fleeting, we can hardly be said to exist." - Eliza Lucas, 1722-1793.
(Beginning The Indigo Girl by Natasha Boyd.)
Dill,
Yesterday at work, a guy asked me to find him a novel he read years ago about two companies in the American Civil War who pause in the fighting to play baseball. All he could remember was that the tension was high in the story because if they got caught, both sides could be punished for treason. I found him Play for a Kingdom, which turned out to be the book. I have no idea if it would interest you (I LOVE baseball, so this book interests me a lot!), but I thought of you as he was describing it, so I thought I'd point it out. I don't think it's based on anything that actually happened in history, but if I find out it is, I'll tell you! I just ordered myself a copy.
I hope you're well! x
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