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LOL I kinda like the spammers. Within minutes of posting, I get a review basically saying "Cool story, bruh"

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Dirk B. wrote:
Kdot wrote:
a blurb might wrote:

They took everything. My friends, my memories, my wings-- even my mother. But I have come to fight back. From the raw streets of one of Earth's toughest cities, I shall rise to vanquish evil. The only question is: once the dust settles will I have a home to return to?

I like it. Thanks.
Dirk

Just out of curiosity, where does Lenore fall on the good/evil spectrum? Her red wings (on your cover) suggest she's not all good. Her indifference to the sword thief's fate adds to my impression.

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She also kills two innocent bystanders in Book I C3... not very nice of her.

Although the character would say "good" I would suggest "neutral"

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Photo shoot picked for another go at J3nna cover. I've had some feedback from market readers and have a path forward. Also thanks to Bobbi. I think this will be the one that works

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You face the disadvantage of having to sell your world with pictures. I can probably slap a nice looking cross on my cover and it might sell.

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Dirk B. wrote:

You face the disadvantage of having to sell your world with pictures. I can probably slap a nice looking cross on my cover and it might sell.

Covers sap a lot of my energy. It's one of the few things I like about traditional publishing... let someone else fuss about that. lol

However I like most of mine, so I guess I shouldn't complain. One I'm cooking up has required me to manually place tens of thousands of houses. It's been worked on on/off for the past few years

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The thing about covers, at least in fantasy and science fiction is that they don't need to have anything to do with the story. A lot of Laurell Hamilton's stories just have bare female legs on them. One old (50s) SF I saw had an enormous eye peering at a naked woman suspended. No story had anything to do with that. And of course, there are the scantily clad females in space. H. Beam Piper parodied that when his male protagonists teamed up with female robots and went across a lunar landscape, the men in "full space armor," the women naked.

My advice, pick a cover that would sell and don't worry about it fitting the story.

On a completely different subject. I'm thinking of changing my protocol. I have five novels and ideas for more. The five novels, in draft form, can always use a different set of eyes, but I reminded myself of all those paperbacks I bought at airports that had typos galore and could really have used someone to point out inconsistencies, etc. So I'm thinking some of these novels will get another glanceover from me and then on to Amazon. One, featuring Jeb Hardwick, needs work because I finally figured out "whodunnit" (not that it's really a mystery) and the reveal, by Rhiannon, has to be worked on to fit the facts and the clues. Another, inspired by "The Haunting of Bly Manor" (i.e., "Turn of the Screw") is done except for the final review. So that makes "Lost Memories in Exile," "The Haunted Exile," along with "The Headless Exile, "Exile in the Beforetime," and "Diane in Exile."

I take it you do something similar, Kdot.

Thoughts?

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I don't advise going live with unworked stories & typos galore. Unlike in the good old days, the reviews that will come in will kinda stick to you. I generally pass mine to an editor.

As for the cover, I burn too much energy seeking perfection. Oh, and the model's doing some video for my ads, which is going to be awesome. It's gonna be super spooky

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Besides typos, punctuation, and grammar, what more does a copy editor provide? Word catches almost all of my typos and several of my detail-oriented reviewers catch the few punctuation and grammar mistakes that I miss. As I'm sure you've noticed, the reviews I give tend to be more like copy edits. I suck at big picture feedback since I can't keep whole stories in my head. Not even my own. :-)

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Dirk B. wrote:

Besides typos, punctuation, and grammar, what more does a copy editor provide? Word catches almost all of my typos and several of my detail-oriented reviewers catch the few punctuation and grammar mistakes that I miss.

Tons of SPAG for starters. Take J3nna who went up on this site for 3 rounds of revision... Chapter 3 alone got 18 reviews and they still found stuff to mark up

I suck at big picture feedback since I can't keep whole stories in my head. Not even my own. :-)

1.  They were excellent with big picture. Since they were reading in a short number of sittings they of course saw things that reviewers would see months apart. For example they caught that [K i m] referred to her "husband" several chapters before she was married. It's not that reviewers missed it, it's that they're tackling other books at the same time where she was already married. And dealing with reposted where she married in a prior version. Not easy to keep all that data straight.

They were also able to hit data dumps and slow parts. Question the use of certain characters

2. They found stuff that snuck by us all
Agreement:
http://www.skyfire.ca/kwan/tnbw/Jx1.jpg
Tense
http://www.skyfire.ca/kwan/tnbw/Jx2.jpg
Readability
http://www.skyfire.ca/kwan/tnbw/Jx3.jpg

3. They're wordy (like me lol)
I tend to cut too many words. Sometimes I'm reading my own sentence and can't parse out my meaning lol

For J3nna, I think they hit around 300 markups (I used about 75%). They were worth their weight in gold

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FYI, your links aren't found.

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Dirk B. wrote:

FYI, your links aren't found.

Hah, well that's a nuisance

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Stuck in an odd place. Lenore needs to be carried (through a portal -- she cannot cross it on her own). The character threw a revolt when I reached the spot, saying the situation is undignified.

What's the most dignified way to carry her? Piggy-back, I figure...

What a weird debacle!

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https://www.wikihow.com/Carry-a-Girl

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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/dc/b8/28dcb8609400d6a78d9720868f1f590e.png

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When I wanted to get Joseph and Paul to Earth, I had them accidentally board a slaver disguised as a passenger ship headed for Maya Reborn. When I wanted to get Connor to the Holy Land against the will of the Council of Cardinals, I had a demon stab him almost to death. Both great fodder for later story development. Leonardo probably would never have existed without the slaver plot twist. "Merda!" he howled.

In other words, find an excuse for someone to carry her across in spite of her objections. If it's done against her will, she doesn't have to worry about being embarrassed. Can she go across unconscious? Have her try to cross on her own and faint, with somebody to then carry her across. Or have someone knock her out first without warning. Can she step across without being carried? If so, have her attacked at the portal and kicked across. If her feet must leave the ground, kick her so she becomes airborne.

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The third cartoon is great if it's against her will. Not very dignified if she's conscious, though.

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Three it s. Lenore is highly unimpressed

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Yup, orange is best. She looks hesitant, for lack of a better word.

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The light blue doesn't stand very well. Go with yellow. Imagine this as a thumbnail on Amazon.

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Star-Wars Yellow it is. I could flatten the lighting to give it that real Lucas intro feel. I'd also have to recede it into the distance...

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I'm heavily into 2nd revision and have a trouble spot... at one point Laine is mocking Sara Mindus.

She jokingly calls him "A Boy Named Sarah"

Reviewers unilaterally edited this to "Sue" but it would not make sense for her to say this.

I tried just now to patch it so the angels call her out for not knowing the lyrics, but that hasn't worked (they have no reason to know the lyrics or even who Johnny Cash is. And if they did, why would they help her mock them?).

Thoughts?

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To whom does she say the joke?

"A boy named Sarah."
"Don't you mean 'A boy named Sue?'"
"Huh?"

No need to explain further.

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Laine steps back. “What’s the story behind this Boy named Sarah?”
Sara Mindus puffs his chest out. “SA-ra! Not SAY-ra.”
“It’s a death angel title,” I add. “Similar to ‘Sir’ as you have on Earth.”

This is the part that's getting corrected. I haven't found a way to word it otherwise

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Sigh. I'm supposed to be working on VQF since I can see the ending but for some reason I find myself drawn back to the comfort of my main series and central  world. Particularly to write K@jo up to the point where he is about to meet J 3nna.

Going back would help explain what's in his head that he puts up with her cray.  That he sticks around seems to be a major tripping point among reviewers.