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Topic: The Lord of the Earth - Dirk B.

Decided to put my thread here for now since this forum has more activity than the Mysteries & Thrillers forum. This thread is for brainstorming and additional feedback about my new trilogy. Please subscribe to the thread if interested.

The story is a supernatural thriller based on the Bible's Book of Revelation (i.e., the Apocalypse). The story will be centered around a character named Connor. The summary for book one follows:

Living in a Catholic orphanage in Rome, fourteen-year-old Connor has special gifts. He comforts the grieving, heals the sick, and casts out demons from the possessed. As the Church struggles to understand his supernatural abilities and reconcile them with accepted doctrine, priests, bishops, and cardinals in Rome are dying at an alarming rate, either by accident, suicide, or murder. Soon the Pope’s Council of Cardinal Advisers concludes the Church is being stalked by the Antichrist, and Connor becomes his main target. The Council must move swiftly to save Connor, who may be the Church’s long-awaited Christ returned in the flesh. What follows is a desperate struggle between good and evil that could decide the fate of Christendom and all of humanity with it.

In case anyone is interested, there is a loosely related short story in my portfolio called Connor. Unlike that story, the trilogy will be set in Rome and the Middle East. The priest who runs the orphanage will be the primary POV character for book one, just as Father Gregory was in the short story. I won't be getting inside the head of Connor until book two in order to maintain a sense of mystery about him in the first book.

I'm probably at least three months away from writing the first chapter since the up front research is brutal. I'll continue to post minor revisions of my Galaxy Tales story as time permits.

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"For the end of the world was long ago, ..."  ---GKC, -The Ballad of the White Horse-

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I'm far from an expert in Catholicism, but I do believe they teach in rapture like we do (we all have different names for it) which implies "...Christ in the flesh..." is technically implausible.

Question: How have believers reacted to the ideas for the new series so far?

Question: What is the planned release order between this and [G a l a x y T a l e s]?

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From catholic.com:
The word Rapture is connected to the Latin word rapiemur, which appears in Paul’s first letter to the Thessalonians in the Latin Vulgate translation of the Bible. It means to be raised up or caught up:

The dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord. (1 Thess. 4:16–17).
Therefore, Catholics believe that those Christians who are still living at the Second Coming of Christ will be gathered together with those who have died in Christ to be forever with the Lord. Catholics do not generally use the term Rapture, nor do they believe in a Rapture that will take place some time before the Second Coming, as do many Evangelicals.

Protestants Dispensationalists use the term rapture to refer to an event in the future when God's chosen ones will be physically removed from Earth so as to be spared the Great Tribulation, which is the persecution by the Antichrist and the False Prophet, of those left behind on Earth prior to Jesus's return. Evangelicals believe Jesus fill physically reign on Earth for a literal thousand years of peace before the Day of the Lord (Judgement Day - cue Terminator theme song).

As it says in the quote, Catholics generally don't use the term to avoid confusion with Evangelical beliefs. Catholics interpret most of Revelation as symbolic, which means no reign of Christ on earth before his return on Judgement Day. The thousand years referred to in Revelation is the Church age, which is arbitrarily long and began with Christ's ascension to Heaven in the 1st century. Christ already rules from Heaven during this period through the Eucharist (Catholic Mass, with its sharing of His body and blood).

I've only begun to engage Catholics about the new story in forums for research purposes. I haven't shared any major details with them, except that I'm writing a Catholic-oriented series of novels about the Second Coming. I haven't received any flak from anyone yet. Serious Catholics probably won't like the ending to the trilogy, since it probably won't include condemnation to the lake of fire of unrepentant sinners.

I don't plan to release Galaxy Tales in its current form. I'm still thinking if there's a way to rewrite it without treating Christianity irreverently (e.g., writing the Heretics Bible with the New Commandments and Jesus's arrival in Joseph's mind, where He tells Joseph that he is the reincarnated second son of twelve children that Christ fathered with Mary Magdalene.) I also don't like the level of violence in Galaxy Tales, but was unable to eliminate most of it as I wrote v3, otherwise the story would have fallen apart. Basically the story needs a complete rewrite.

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What do y'all think of the name of my trilogy (Chronicles of the Second Coming). It's a little long/religious, but most of the best names are taken by other authors, and I don't want to duplicate them to avoid confusion. The target audience is readers of thrillers and Christians. The title "The Exorcist" was ideal for the book/movie from the 70's. It suggested a horror film with a hint of Christianity. Should I try for a title including the term "Apocalypse", which is probably more recognizable to non-Christians than the "Second Coming"?

Thanks
Dirk

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Eye of the Antichrist
Caligo Deus
Caster of Souls / Soul Caster
Rapiemur

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Thanks. Unfortunately none of those draw me in, especially since few people will know what the foreign words mean.
Why "eye" of the Antichrist? I should add that it's only the first book that focuses primarily on the Antichrist. After that, it's more of an ensemble, including the False Prophet, Satan, and in the 3rd book, Christ.

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I put eye, because I bet blood is taken

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Nuts. I thought of Unholy Trinity, but it's been used for ten different books.

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Son of a... Eve of the Apocalypse doesn't show up under Amazon books, but it's the name of a Warcraft game.

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Apocalypse Unleashed is also taken.

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The word "trinity" sounds too pretty. No matter what you stick to it, it still sounds nice.

Dark Trinity? Must be about a witches coven
Hell's Trinity? I think I saw that on a porno

instead, how's about...

"For Whom the Scripture tolls"

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Although more poetic than evil sounding, I like it better than mine.

Thanks.
Dirk

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=Foretold=

Also look up the text of the Dies Irea.  And see https://youtu.be/dLgvKwOYniY .

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Thanks, njc. I checked Foretold, Dies Irea, and other phrases from the video. They're all used, except for Chant for the Dead. Unfortunately, that's somewhat off topic.

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Looks like we have a winner: Requiem for Heaven and Earth. Revelation mentions that the old heaven and the old earth pass away.

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I was suggesting you look to the text of the Dies Irea.  But that's a good title.

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I read it this morning. The closest I found to a usable title was Doomed to Flames. Meh.

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Switched series title again. I think the latest is more powerful. I wonder how many people under thirty will get the reference to the hymn.

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There's the forgotten and embarassing verse:

I have read a fiery Gospel writ in burning rows of steel:
As ye deal with my contemners so with you my grace shall deal.
Let the Hero born of woman crush the serpent with his heel ...

You could also work with "He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat."

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Requiem was better - this one sounds like the title of a gospel book from the eyes of a Harlem school teacher

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I'm missing something. What's wrong with that verse, njc? Also, I did here that verse on Spotify yesterday.

K, you have to admit it's a more powerful title for attracting Christians at a glance. Requiem is, admittedly, more neutral. I made some notes overnight to see what else might work.

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Battle Hymn of the Republic seems to have been a bad choice. The song has been playing in my head since yesterday. :-(

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Come and knock on our door. We've been waiting for you.
Where the kisses are hers and hers and his,
**** 3's company toooooo! ****

Thank me later

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Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip
That started from this topic port aboard this tiny ship
The mate was a mighty sailing man, the skipper brave and sure
Five passengers set sail that day on a three hour tour
A three hour tour

Of course it begs the question why the Howells, Ginger, and even Maryanne brought enough clothes to dress differently for almost ever episode. Also, why did Thurston bring a trunk full of cash? Plot holes!