#1 06-01-2008 12:14:35
June reading
Ever since I heard and then read this essay last December it has stuck in my mind. It is called Turbulent Waters by Jimmy Liao.
http://www.thisibelieve.org/dsp_ShowEss … mp;start=0
I love this because I believe it speaks to many of us who are writing memoirs. It isn't what happened that is interesting. What matters is how we handled what happened and how we crafted our story. This essay speaks to the former. He experienced turbulence and this is what he came to believe of it.
I would like to discuss this essay here and I challenge each of you to 1. pick your own favorite essay on the site and 2. write an essay to submit. We can post and review them here before sending them off. The site has excellent essay writing instructions at http://www.thisibelieve.org/essaywritingtips.html. A serious word of caution. If you send it to them they will post it. If you just want to see your stuff posted there, then ok. They have two tiers, though. Only the ones they select get read on the air.
I hope each of you enjoys This I Believe as much as I do. Perhaps you do already.
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#2 06-01-2008 16:37:25
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I am so excited about this! Yeah, Ellie, for your great choice! I'll read it this evening and have some things to say about it (or be very ashamed) by tomorrow!
Good challenge, too. I believe many things. I'm trying to think of one I can express well in five hundred words.
Okay, this is now turning into an issue, so let me put it in my sig file so everyone knows upfront: I don't read or review fiction that includes sexual violence. ] I just don't. I will fight my way through sexual violence in your memoir, but not in your fiction. I apologize in advance for anyone who is inconvenienced by this.
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#3 06-01-2008 19:16:28
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I have a bit of a problem with this essay.
1. I don't find the writing particularly engaging, it is more recitation than literary.
2. He is stating the obvious.
It seems sort of Readers Digest. But, hey, he's a scientist, A for effort.
Go, eat your bread in gladness, and drink your wine in joy; for your action was long ago approved by God.
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#4 06-02-2008 03:23:17
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That's more than a problem! ;-) Perhaps the Readers Digest Abridged version of the essay would be more palatable (in a scientific writer's kind of way, I mean)?
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#5 06-02-2008 04:21:43
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N_E, I think Mishmont was trying to be polite as if I might be offended that she doesn't like the essay that I like. I'm not in any way offended though. How can we discuss things if we have to agree?
It's true. The essay is not literary. It is succinct. That's the nature of the platform (This I Believe). A long literary essay, like the one we read last month, wouldn't fit.
It's interesting you think, Mish, he is stating the obvious. Obvious to me would be that going thru turbulence can make you stronger. He is saying that by "going with the flow" you can harness the energy of the turbulence to get away. To me the getting away could mean physically away or being able to remove yourself enough to get a different perspective. It also shows to me that we don't always have to invent a solution. There may already be a solution in nature.
I found that he wrapped up his cultural background, his personal experience, and his academic training into one nice tight meaningful essay.
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#6 06-02-2008 05:17:15
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I'm going to stand between Mish and Ellie on this one. The writing didn't particularly strike me, but I'm not sure it always has to be the writing that makes a piece "good."
What did strike me was how very much he told us in five hundred words! The opening, with the author and his father fishing on golf courses, was really lovely. I think the two images... the father who hit, the father who orchestrated these fishing capers... created a surprisingly rich tapestry in a very short time. (Although it may be that I read more than is there, having just finished Sigrid Nunez's "A Feather On The Voice of God," with it's simliar father and all.)
I struggle with the short form. Give me something that has limited itself to 1500 words, and if it's well done I won't feel like it's abridged. Five hundred, though, seems a terrible challenge. (Though I expect our resident Haiku artist, Mish, will do great with this challenge!) I do not know what can be said if 500 words. No, that's not right. I don't know what can be WRITTEN in 500 words. When I hear these essays read aloud on NPR, they do not see abbreviated to me. They seem the perfect length. I wonder what that tells us?
Okay, this is now turning into an issue, so let me put it in my sig file so everyone knows upfront: I don't read or review fiction that includes sexual violence. ] I just don't. I will fight my way through sexual violence in your memoir, but not in your fiction. I apologize in advance for anyone who is inconvenienced by this.
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#7 06-02-2008 07:42:53
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I agree. The length is a real challenge like the haiku or the drabble or whatever that was called. There was a contest on this site for 200 words, wasn't there? I have an essay (Bayonet) posted here that is about 460 words. It is about my relationship with my father, but that is just a coincidence.
For my answer to my own challenge I plan to write something about the process being worth something, not just the end result. I haven't written it yet, so can't really explain it. I do plan to submit it to This I Believe with no real expectation of being selected. I don't quite get their selection standards, but as my essay will say, the process of doing somehing is worth a lot to me.
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#8 06-02-2008 09:10:25
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I'll read it again when I am not so tired.
I realize what set me off was the violent father---I wasn't going to like anything after that, particularly acceptance.
However, this is a reflection of my own reality that i don't need to carry with me when I review.
Go, eat your bread in gladness, and drink your wine in joy; for your action was long ago approved by God.
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#9 06-02-2008 11:47:24
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Or you just don't like the essay. You don't have to, that's perfectly valid.
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#10 06-02-2008 16:07:29
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I also prefer a more literary style, but this essay really struck a cord with me and I was able to identify well with what the author was saying.
When I was younger, we used to go tubing and at one point we would reach this man made shoot, rocks built up on either side so the water came through with much greater force, carrying us with it. You would always be drawn under and the one thing I was told the first time I gave it a go was to relax when the water took me down and not fight it and the current would spit me out several yards away from the shoot. I didn't listen the first go and I struggled to reach the surface until terror calmed my mind and reminded me to relax. POP up I came in no time, so I knew instantly what the author was saying and I thought it was very well said.
I, too, liked that it was with the father the boy first learned this concept, the same concept that would help him move past the turbulance created by the father.
I thought it added a great layer to the story.
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#11 06-02-2008 16:29:54
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So, has anyone written and posted to the assigned site yet?
I don't want to go first.
Paint me yellow and call me a chicken liver, I already know.
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#12 06-02-2008 16:59:39
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Pam, I suggest you write something and post it here first. That way we can pick it apart before they do.
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#13 06-02-2008 17:23:56
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pamelablack62 wrote:
So, has anyone written and posted to the assigned site yet?
I seem to be getting lost. which is the assigned site? I thought this one was about the June essay.
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#14 06-02-2008 17:30:37
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I have to agree with Mish, I didn't find this essay particulary engaging either. Perhaps the violent side of his father was thrust in too fast, I don't know, I just think he could have played out his hand a little more carefully and finessed the reader along a bit. Again, maybe just a preference for style. I found his style to journalistic I think and I tend to be a sparse writer.
Pamela, what assigned site? I'm lost did I miss something?
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#15 06-02-2008 17:40:59
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Pam is referring to the This I Believe site. I mentioned the possibility of each of us sending an essay there in the first post of this thread.
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#16 06-02-2008 17:45:08
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Okay, Thanks Ellie, I see now.
http://www.amazon.com/Crocheted-Gesture … amp;sr=1-1
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#17 06-02-2008 19:07:47
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EllieO wrote:
Pam, I suggest you write something and post it here first. That way we can pick it apart before they do.
You first!
Just teasing.
Give me a few days..........give us all a few days and I'll bet we all get something posted and we'll post it here first?
Is that right?
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#18 06-02-2008 19:27:03
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Yeah, this is for the month of June and it is only June 2.
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#19 06-02-2008 20:04:26
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I'm not posting this on their site, but I'm posting my contribution on this one. A scant 322 words, including title. I'm listing it under the title "Bo Diddley" so it shouldn't be hard to find. Probably isn't really in the vein of the show, but damnit, I DO believe everyone should know who Bo Diddley is (was).
Okay, this is now turning into an issue, so let me put it in my sig file so everyone knows upfront: I don't read or review fiction that includes sexual violence. ] I just don't. I will fight my way through sexual violence in your memoir, but not in your fiction. I apologize in advance for anyone who is inconvenienced by this.
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#20 06-03-2008 17:25:09
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I'll look for that.
http://www.amazon.com/Crocheted-Gesture … amp;sr=1-1
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The Full Effect @ http://www.thenextbigwriter.com/library … read/47232
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#21 06-03-2008 17:36:58
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Clicking over now, Sarah.
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#22 06-04-2008 15:15:19
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My Ellie's challenge piece is posted, Liberating Love, hope you give it a read so I can send it on it's way after reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/Crocheted-Gesture … amp;sr=1-1
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#23 06-04-2008 16:57:18
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I liked it very much, lovely sweet story and well pictured. Will try to review tomorrow.
How about: Love Liberates?
I am thinking Liberating Love suggests a limit to love (there is the liberating kind, the cloying kind, etc.) which your premise denies, instead suggesting that if it doesn't liberate than it is something, but not love.
Make sense?
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#24 06-04-2008 17:43:38
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Yeah, I get what you mean. THanks Mish, I'll think about Love Liberates, I just am not sold on what I have to far for a title. Thanks for reading. You don't have to review, unless you need the points. This is adequate. nancy
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#25 06-04-2008 19:43:52
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aldersmith wrote:
My Ellie's challenge piece is posted, Liberating Love, hope you give it a read so I can send it on it's way after reviews.
Will review tomorrow evening.
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