#1 07-04-2012 15:55:48
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Higgs Bosson particle detected Yay!
Just had to share, those amazing boffins at CERN have found the remnants of The Higgs Bosson Particle, ONLY THE GOD PARTICLE. Bloody amazing.
This explains why sub particles travel at differant speeds. It could be described as the Ether, and this ether is what all matter swims through, the lighter you are the less interaction.
So what does this mean for us Sci Fi fans, firstly the fundimental model that most physicists prescribe too is, apparantly, true.
Perhaps were one step closer to releasing the energy in matter. cold fission etc. Space travel might be a thousand times cheaper. I think the spaceshuttle is something like, can't be bothered looking it up, 90% energy/propellant just to push 70% of it's own weight into space.
But it just plain vindicates Sci Fi as the great genera that it is.
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#2 07-05-2012 22:12:32
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Indeed it does, d a! Very interesting stuff and all for the writer's imaginative taking!![]()
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#3 07-06-2012 04:33:56
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God particle...hmmph. What kind of God would let itself be discovered just to make Stephen Hawking lose a hundred dollar bet? lol. Yep, he bet one-hundred bucks the Higgs Boson would never be found. Of course Einstein vowed "God does not play dice" when asked about the uncertainty principle of quantum physics. Now if they can be wrong, we don't have to feel so stupid when we are wrong, right? Take care. Vern
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#4 07-08-2012 12:46:52
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Now that they've found the most fundamental particle, it's time to move onto the most elusive of all: Dark Matter.
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#5 07-08-2012 14:46:08
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Hi, All!
Uh, while y'all are moving, could you stop by the last couple of chapter postings of my Home World novel & drop me some feedback? I really do recip - takes a while, around quarter close & such times, but I do.
Hugs & Hope
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#6 07-08-2012 16:21:00
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Ah, but what is this Higgs Boson composed of?
If I shoot a steely marble through a measurable magnetic field, the thing that is the magnetic field is both a field and a particle effecting iron (protons + or electrons-)... and that is how I picture the Higgs Field/particle when elementary particles zip into it, only instead of effecting direction, it effects weight/mass. Talk about a complex measurement! An electron, when measured for Higgs boson effects on it can then be manipulated down to the quark levels... changing spin rates and directions? ... making it into a positron or their anti particles? This boson boggles the mind... yes.
To me, Dark Matter is the eleven dimensions (minus the four we know and love).
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#7 07-08-2012 18:00:30
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Dark Matter is that which emits from a light bulb when it is turned off; it travels at 186,001 miles per second.
Dark Matter is what you feel brushing against your skin when your eyes are shut and nobody is around to hear you scream.
Dark Matter is what you have for supper when the cook gets overly engrossed in the ball game on TV.
Dark Matter is the stuff on your exam which the teacher talked about while you were sexting someone.
Take care. Vern
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#8 07-08-2012 18:44:24
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maxkeanu wrote:
Ah, but what is this Higgs Boson composed of?
If I shoot a steely marble through a measurable magnetic field, the thing that is the magnetic field is both a field and a particle effecting iron (protons + or electrons-)... and that is how I picture the Higgs Field/particle when elementary particles zip into it, only instead of effecting direction, it effects weight/mass. Talk about a complex measurement! An electron, when measured for Higgs boson effects on it can then be manipulated down to the quark levels... changing spin rates and directions? ... making it into a positron or their anti particles? This boson boggles the mind... yes.
To me, Dark Matter is the weight of the seven other dimension (minus the four we know and love).
Or, a proton is nothing more than a gumball machine full of bosons.
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#9 07-08-2012 19:59:20
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thesilentone wrote:
maxkeanu wrote:
Ah, but what is this Higgs Boson composed of?
If I shoot a steely marble through a measurable magnetic field, the thing that is the magnetic field is both a field and a particle effecting iron (protons + or electrons-)... and that is how I picture the Higgs Field/particle when elementary particles zip into it, only instead of effecting direction, it effects weight/mass. Talk about a complex measurement! An electron, when measured for Higgs boson effects on it can then be manipulated down to the quark levels... changing spin rates and directions? ... making it into a positron or their anti particles? This boson boggles the mind... yes.
To me, Dark Matter is the weight of the seven other dimension (minus the four we know and love).Or, a proton is nothing more than a gumball machine full of bosons.
More like a buzzing bee particle in a dust storm of bosonic field energies soon becomes a very heavy and dusty bee... but then can it still be called a bee, since it's bigger, slower... and dustier?
Geez, I wasn't too far off in my electromagnetic marble theory. I loved stealies when I was a kid playing marbles in the school yard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introducti … iggs_field
But wait, there's more (and this really f&^ks with the mind and the Higgs Bozos). I find this fascinating as long as I keep light, the magnet and magnetic (electromagnetic) field in mind as a template for other concepts, as this template is all quantum physics is at the root. And I am rolling little sci-fi scenarios constantly... like can the HIggs theory be run up exponentially to work on the macroscopic level... and where a virtual Martinus Scriblerus becomes our guide to a world where we extend the knowable dimensions to 5-7-11... well not eleven, since at that point all stories would become all stories vibrating against one another... too much coffee again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_photons
Good night fellow wanderers.
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#10 07-08-2012 21:29:10
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Did you ever see a long fishing lure drawn through the water? It danced, oscillated and rippled through the water. That's what ALL particles do when travelling through The Ether, giving rise to wave lengths and the variable speeds. We now know for sure, as many physicists have always suspected, its the individual particles mass thats being, grabbed if you like, interacting with the Higgs Boson field. And yes Max, as with Neutrinos, they can some how release or gain/change mass which is kinda like changing train tracks at the speed of light. I'm no mathematician, although I enjoyed mathematical linear programming at Uni, but you don't have to be to know that something so awsome is upon us.
Dark Matter Uurgh! They might as well have said, "Lepricon's juggling hand grenades." The truth is they don't know why the universe exists, given the imbalance of energy. So some numpty calls it Dark Matter, which is quite misleading. The explanation to the imbalance will be figured out eventually. I like to think of it being like ants sat upon an elephant. We've had a meeting and decided our universe moves because were riding on a great god called Ellie, now we just got work out what holds Ellie up. (And no it’s not Turtle’s.)
So now were asking ourselves what’s the great god Ellie stood on? Yes, Hawking did lose the bet, but I think it’s the best $100 bucks ever lost.
All hail Peter Higgs and his $100 dollar bet.
This is way beyond moon landings and space stations.
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#11 07-08-2012 21:55:25
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Thanks for posting d.a.
Sci-fi and other Speculative Fiction forum needs to be brought to life. America and Britain are really sucking big time in science and math aptitudes and innovations and fictions about cool science and saving the world from acid-spewing aliens. Star Trek is all but dead and we're jobbin out space launches to communists and people from eBay... how bad can it get before a new Flasher Gordon arrives on the scene? Just kiddin, but I'd really love to see some juicy sci-fi here (hearin me Doug Moore?)
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#12 07-09-2012 00:50:17
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All hail Ellie! So an astrogeophysicist becomes a dermatologist of the cosmic Ellie. I rather like it.
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#13 07-09-2012 00:53:57
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Max, shame on you. Such blasphemy will not be tolerated. Star Trek is NOT dead. <Kydd covers her ears and chants her "Live Long and Prosper" mantra.>![]()
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#14 07-09-2012 03:59:26
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Kydd your so right, Star Trek will always be with me, and as much as I loved the old, the new is brilliant. Loved the last film. Max you make me laugh, thanks.
To boldly go, or baldly in my case.
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#15 07-12-2012 00:49:43
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Or to put it bluntly: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/god … story.html
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#16 07-12-2012 13:11:44
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Bonnie Milani wrote:
Hi, All!
Uh, while y'all are moving, could you stop by the last couple of chapter postings of my Home World novel & drop me some feedback? I really do recip - takes a while, around quarter close & such times, but I do.
Hugs & Hope
Bonnie Milani
Hey Bonnie, I saw your name pop up on another fantasy forum and I've started working my way through your chapters. I'm not going to review the first few as you've got plenty on those (and I'm not fishing for credits!). I'm going to read all of them before I review the last few so that I know what I'm talking about!
I'll be in touch soon. :-)
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#17 07-13-2012 06:33:23
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Or to put it bluntly: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/god … story.html
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This is really 'cool!' Wow.... Thanks for posting the site as Robert keeps up with all of this but I am lucky to get in any reading/reviewing right now...
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#18 07-13-2012 11:11:19
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Or to put it bluntly: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/god … story.html
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Wonderful discovery? Or the end of the world?
But I'm also thinking—ultimate death ray. That that gives mass to everything, can also take away mass from things like humans and encryption and barking doberman pinchers and my neural networks. Just a minute mass, of mass, removed from electrons and all brains turn to grape jelly. You can bet your bottom dollar DARPA already has this death ray on the drawing broads, and will deny this until its shipped to Area 52 to test on sheep and prairie dogs.
Oh Flash Gordon Jr.... will you be battling the evil Ming Bling in future decades? Have we opened Pandora's box another inch? Will hadrons... the evil mass-less monster, Hadron the Great, soon invade worlds at speeds faster than light?
With every new and great invention (except the PEZ dispenser) man finds a way to bugger his fellow man, steal his plump women and increase banking interest rates.
The major practical uses for quantum discoveries, so far, can be counted on your fingers.
Paranoid, me? I'm buying my sheep, a crook and retreating to the hills very soon.
- mÅx -baah-baah-baah
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#19 07-13-2012 17:26:59
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And breath...max. I don't care what your on I want some, I think I'm a bit jealous of you, swimming every day walks on the beach..but take the pointy tin foil hat off.
Without the knowledge we have of quantum tunneling we would not have the processors we have today.
Pretty well everything around you has a chip in it, I'm looking over at my lovely Stitch, he's our Greatdane, even he has a chip, lol.
Don't forget your wellies max, they keep the sheep in place.
Cheers me dears
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#20 07-13-2012 22:10:58
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Geez, your right quantum tunneling...ooops. Forgot about diodes. I have a silly electronics degree I never use any more. And most of my cats have chips, too. I may need one... for memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EffetTunnel.gif
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#21 07-14-2012 03:52:10
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You did say, and I quote, "The major practical uses for quantum discoveries, so far, can be counted on your fingers." Come on thats so not true. Lets go down to your beach and lite a fire and talk about our favourite episodes of South Park. We don't have to hold hands though, the pointy tin foil hats are optional, but I think there cool.
Hey the links in French!
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#22 07-14-2012 04:45:28
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"The major practical uses for quantum discoveries, so far, can be counted on your fingers."
Now, if you turn those "digits" into "qubits" those fingers could do a lot more counting than first meets the eye... or fingers as the case may be. What are the limits for "superimposing" those mundane digits into a quantum configuration of dexterous proportions?
Of course once you count that quantum finger, it might not be there anymore which would be a bummer until it shows up somewhere else, but then you get to count it again and that's pretty cool don't you think. Imagine the confusion it might cause to road rage warriors who only use one finger. Suddenly there are fingers where they ain't supposed to be and who knows what that could mean. Aww geez, all this is getting to be a bit uncertain. I need to talk to Shroedinger or somebody to make sense of it all. Take care. Vern
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#23 07-14-2012 18:35:30
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Lol, I have to admit my brain goes foggy thinking about superpositions and quantum computing. But Vern are you having a smite at my deficiencies in the digit department? I only have eight fingers, plus two rather short digits.
Joking aside I cut two off after disagreeing with a table saw.
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