#1 06-09-2011 09:58:18
- harvey
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Hi everyone...
I've been thinking about joining for ages but somehow never got around to it.
I'm so glad I did join ![]()
I've spent a day browsing around and I am seriously impressed with what goes in here. It's rare to find an online community with such a great bunch of members.
I've been writing fiction for about 20 years. Had some success (stories in magazines) but never got around to nailing a novel.
For the last 3 years I've been busy building a writing website, but now that it's starting to run on auto-pilot, I can devote a lot more time to my own writing.
Harvey
"My first thought about art, as a child, was that the artist brings something into the world that didn't exist before, and that he does it without destroying something else...That still seems to me its central magic, its core of joy."
- John Updike
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#2 06-09-2011 10:10:22
- Kydd Dustyn
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Welcome to the madhouse, Harvey! Definitely a collection of excellent authors, reviewers and resources here!
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#3 06-09-2011 15:07:24
- TirzahLaughs
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Hey bunny:)
WELCOME!
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#4 06-09-2011 23:31:10
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Hi Harvey, glad you made it.
If you don't have a dream, how you gonna make your dream come true..
from the Bali Hi sequence from South Pacific.
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#5 06-09-2011 23:42:33
- A.T.Schlesinger
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Welcome Harvey!
What is your prefered area and do you have anything to submit on the site yet?
The lantern revealed a symbol of an eye with long, wavy lashes like tentacles, painted white and deeply engraved into the stone. A breeze lifted her hair as Shadyia glanced down the ancient passage.
“What’s down there?” she asked.(Chapter 9)
Shadyia: Dark Desires by A.T.Schlesinger
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#6 06-10-2011 00:39:30
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You'll find a wide range of interests on the site - meaning you'll get feedback from many angles. I've found this to be very, VERY helpful while crafting my novels on site.
Welcome!
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#7 06-10-2011 06:31:59
- TirzahLaughs
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Okay I said I wouldn't ask but I can't resist.
Are you a pooka?
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#8 06-10-2011 09:59:39
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A.T.Schlesinger wrote:
Welcome Harvey!
What is your prefered area and do you have anything to submit on the site yet?
I write literary fiction - though more at the mainstream end of the scale. (I like a good plot, in other words
)
Yes, I've got loads to submit to the site. Watch this space...
Harvey
"My first thought about art, as a child, was that the artist brings something into the world that didn't exist before, and that he does it without destroying something else...That still seems to me its central magic, its core of joy."
- John Updike
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#9 06-10-2011 10:02:18
- harvey
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TirzahLaughs wrote:
Okay I said I wouldn't ask but I can't resist.
Are you a pooka?
![]()
Sorry to disappoint, but no.
I love the movie, though.
Harvey
"My first thought about art, as a child, was that the artist brings something into the world that didn't exist before, and that he does it without destroying something else...That still seems to me its central magic, its core of joy."
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#10 06-10-2011 10:04:55
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I thought a pooka was a place where one holes up. So, what else is it?
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#11 06-10-2011 12:31:27
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A pooka or pookah is a six foot tall invisible rabbit that was in the movie, 'Harvey' with Jimmy Stewart.
For once, me calling someone BUNNY makes sense. ![]()
Tirz
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#12 06-10-2011 14:34:46
- A.T.Schlesinger
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harvey wrote:
I write literary fiction - though more at the mainstream end of the scale.
Literary Fiction. I actually looked this up on Wikipedia today because I didn't know what the hell it meant.
...and after reading Wikipedia's description, I still don't know the hell it means.
wikipedia wrote:
What distinguishes literary fiction from other genres is subjective; and as in other artistic media, genres may overlap. Even so, literary fiction is generally characterized as distinctive based on its content and style ("literariness", the concern to be "writerly"). The term literary fiction is considered hard to define very precisely but is commonly associated with the criteria used in literary awards and marketing of certain kinds of novels, since literary prizes usually concern themselves with literary fiction, and their shortlists can give a working definition.
What the hell?
The lantern revealed a symbol of an eye with long, wavy lashes like tentacles, painted white and deeply engraved into the stone. A breeze lifted her hair as Shadyia glanced down the ancient passage.
“What’s down there?” she asked.(Chapter 9)
Shadyia: Dark Desires by A.T.Schlesinger
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#13 06-10-2011 14:43:17
- TirzahLaughs
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A.T.Schlesinger wrote:
harvey wrote:
I write literary fiction - though more at the mainstream end of the scale.
Literary Fiction. I actually looked this up on Wikipedia today because I didn't know what the hell it meant.
...and after reading Wikipedia's description, I still don't know the hell it means.wikipedia wrote:
What distinguishes literary fiction from other genres is subjective; and as in other artistic media, genres may overlap. Even so, literary fiction is generally characterized as distinctive based on its content and style ("literariness", the concern to be "writerly"). The term literary fiction is considered hard to define very precisely but is commonly associated with the criteria used in literary awards and marketing of certain kinds of novels, since literary prizes usually concern themselves with literary fiction, and their shortlists can give a working definition.
What the hell?
Literary Fiction---usually---and not always-- starts after or just before the main event. It is usually sad or introspective. It's less about plot and more about thoughts, internal growth or personal stagnation.
A commercial fiction book might be about finding love or dealing with death or running from gangsters. It'll have climaxes and a big reveal. The plot is more important.
A lit fic book the reader will usually know the big reveal early on. The book is on the exploration of the cracks caused by that event or action. It's like psychoanalysis. Usually more internal life oriented than plot.
That's the best I can explain it.
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#14 06-10-2011 18:56:06
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Harvey,
Welcome. It is a nice place to be, and to grow.
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#15 06-11-2011 02:03:38
- A.T.Schlesinger
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TirzahLaughs wrote:
Literary Fiction---usually---and not always-- starts after or just before the main event. It is usually sad or introspective. It's less about plot and more about thoughts, internal growth or personal stagnation.
OK, so Literary Fiction would be about a man's thoughts the night before he goes to the electric chair. It may not even mention what he did to deserve it. Commercial Fiction would be the story of the man doing the crime, getting caught and then would end with him getting cooked.
Do I have that right?
The lantern revealed a symbol of an eye with long, wavy lashes like tentacles, painted white and deeply engraved into the stone. A breeze lifted her hair as Shadyia glanced down the ancient passage.
“What’s down there?” she asked.(Chapter 9)
Shadyia: Dark Desires by A.T.Schlesinger
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#16 06-11-2011 13:11:39
- harvey
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A.T.Schlesinger wrote:
Literary Fiction. I actually looked this up on Wikipedia today because I didn't know what the hell it meant.
I actually hate the term literary fiction, because it sounds kind of elitist.
Anyway, I've researched definitions of all the various types of fiction, and here is what I wrote about Literary Fiction on my site.
(I hesitated to post that link, because I don't want to give the impression I'm here to promote my site. I'm not. So, please do NOT click on any of the ads.)
Harvey
P.S. I think I would classify what I write closer to Mainstream Fiction.
P.P.S. I'm definitely going to be posting some of my work soon. Trouble is, there's only 24 hours in a day, and I have to sleep for at least one of them ![]()
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#17 06-11-2011 14:24:54
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Yay! Another literary fiction writer! Welcome. There are about 3 of us, and then some...
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#18 06-11-2011 14:27:08
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harvey wrote:
A.T.Schlesinger wrote:
Literary Fiction. I actually looked this up on Wikipedia today because I didn't know what the hell it meant.
I actually hate the term literary fiction, because it sounds kind of elitist.
Anyway, I've researched definitions of all the various types of fiction, and here is what I wrote about Literary Fiction on my site.
(I hesitated to post that link, because I don't want to give the impression I'm here to promote my site. I'm not. So, please do NOT click on any of the ads.)
Harvey
P.S. I think I would classify what I write closer to Mainstream Fiction.
P.P.S. I'm definitely going to be posting some of my work soon. Trouble is, there's only 24 hours in a day, and I have to sleep for at least one of them
Unless of course you hate the term.... And then of course the term will have to hate you back. How do you like being hated? ![]()
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#19 06-11-2011 14:42:24
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Hello Harvey --
Welcome, and thank you for your fabulous website. Very insightful, practical, and above all: HELPful. I'm anxious to read your work.
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#20 06-11-2011 15:34:55
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Welcome Harvey, I've met some wonderful, fun people here. You will too. T Cat
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#21 06-11-2011 16:27:56
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Welcome Harvey! Have been a bit busy last few weeks etc.. cannot believe the number of new names! Can't get to all of them to say welcome but will start with you..
The site is a place to grow and get feedback from a very eclectic group of writers. Perfect audience in my mind. Your work is seen from many different angles.
Flo
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#22 06-12-2011 14:43:44
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A.T.Schlesinger wrote:
TirzahLaughs wrote:
Literary Fiction---usually---and not always-- starts after or just before the main event. It is usually sad or introspective. It's less about plot and more about thoughts, internal growth or personal stagnation.
OK, so Literary Fiction would be about a man's thoughts the night before he goes to the electric chair. It may not even mention what he did to deserve it. Commercial Fiction would be the story of the man doing the crime, getting caught and then would end with him getting cooked.
Do I have that right?
More or less with variations. The man could die in the chair the first chapter and spend the whole book discussing how he got there.
You would already know how it ended. Hah.
Lit fic has a thousand variations but basically if it is seriously plot oriented, its probably not Lit Fic.
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