#1 04-22-2011 14:27:17
- esmerelda morgenstern
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Struggling to bounce back after bad (no) feedback
I'm about 22,000 words into a first attempt at a novel. A colleague of mine has been asking to read it ever since I started, and I kept telling her it wasn't ready yet. Last week I got to a point where the plot was at least cohesive, if not anywhere near final, and I decided to finally let her see the first three chapters. She's looked at my writing in the past and said she enjoyed it, so it seemed safe. I emailed it with a note that it was a very rough draft, and she wrote back saying she was really excited and would take a look right away. Well a week later, no response. I've seen her twice now, and she hasn't mentioned it. Seeing as how there was no "Oh gee, I haven't had time to read it yet," I can only assume that she absolutely abhored it and can't think of a single thing to say to me. I emailed her a couple of days ago saying "Look, just forget about it, OK? It wasn't ready," and still not a word back.
To be honest, I would have preferred to hear "I didn't like it," and move on, because it has now become The Thing Of Which We Must Not Speak, which makes it seem even more horrific in my mind. I know it needs a ton of work, but I didn't think it was embarassingly horrendous. And now I'm questioning the entire piece, as well as my abilities as a writer.
Anyway, I'm hoping that people can give me advice on how to get past this and keep writing. I really don't want to give up on this project, but my confidence has taken a huge hit.
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#2 04-22-2011 14:46:20
- crazeesharon
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Re: Struggling to bounce back after bad (no) feedback
Dear es, we've all been there, writing that first dreaded sentence of the first chapter of the first novel. One thing these online writing sites are for is to help people just like yourself. Just be prepared, there are writers here (from all different levels, backgrounds, genres, etc.) who are going to tell you like it is. If you truly wish to learn, you will take their advice and see if it applies to your writing. You need a tough hide, so to speak, because as tough as it may be here, it's that much tougher in the publishing world. Asking family and friends with no writing experience will usually not get you anywhere.
Start by reading the reviews posted on this site to other writers here. They are loaded with lots of valuable information, which you can then apply to your own story. And also check out the Writing Tips Forum, even go way back in the archives. There are some excellent posts there.
Perserverance is the number one attribute a writer must have. If you don't have it, then you won't ever make it as a writer.
There are tons of free articles online on how to write a novel, start educating yourself.
The mechanics of novel writing can be taught, but natural writing talent cannot. You either have it or you don't. Asking friends to critique causes the problem you outlined in your post. Dealing with other writers places your work in the proper venue to better help you learn and improve. Remember that we are all here to learn, and we all had to start at the beginning. Sharon
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#3 04-22-2011 14:56:30
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Re: Struggling to bounce back after bad (no) feedback
esmerelda morgenstern wrote:
I'm about 22,000 words into a first attempt at a novel. A colleague of mine has been asking to read it ever since I started, and I kept telling her it wasn't ready yet. Last week I got to a point where the plot was at least cohesive, if not anywhere near final, and I decided to finally let her see the first three chapters. She's looked at my writing in the past and said she enjoyed it, so it seemed safe. I emailed it with a note that it was a very rough draft, and she wrote back saying she was really excited and would take a look right away. Well a week later, no response. I've seen her twice now, and she hasn't mentioned it. Seeing as how there was no "Oh gee, I haven't had time to read it yet," I can only assume that she absolutely abhored it and can't think of a single thing to say to me. I emailed her a couple of days ago saying "Look, just forget about it, OK? It wasn't ready," and still not a word back.
To be honest, I would have preferred to hear "I didn't like it," and move on, because it has now become The Thing Of Which We Must Not Speak, which makes it seem even more horrific in my mind. I know it needs a ton of work, but I didn't think it was embarassingly horrendous. And now I'm questioning the entire piece, as well as my abilities as a writer.
Anyway, I'm hoping that people can give me advice on how to get past this and keep writing. I really don't want to give up on this project, but my confidence has taken a huge hit.
I'm sorry about your co-worker, but your story had me laughing pretty good. The whole 'thing you don't talk about'. If your writing style is as engaging as this 'account' then you're ahead of the game. The same thing won't happen here. You'll get your feedback. Welcome to the site. ![]()
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#4 04-22-2011 16:01:55
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Re: Struggling to bounce back after bad (no) feedback
There are certain axioms in life such as "don't piss against the wind" or "don't lend friends money or your sweetheart if you want either back" et al, and now you can add "don't let uncouth friends read your writing until it's published" - unless you have very thick skin or are into sadomasochism, lol. Take care. Vern
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#5 04-23-2011 02:12:35
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Re: Struggling to bounce back after bad (no) feedback
Es: The best thing I ever did was post my first chapter on this site a year ago. I'd gone through what you did. My friends never had time, and I didn't want the friendships to suffer. I found this site by accident, and a happy accident it was! You've seen other advice on educating yourself, and looking at reviews of other work. It's worth looking at. Now that I know your name, I'll even check out your piece, and see what it's about.
Writing really is about perseverence - plodding on, thinking about what reviewers say, and how it can help you. My first novel has gone through many transformations in a year, thanks to the practical advice from the site, and patient re-write after re-write. The next step is getting a publisher to look at it.
Welcome to the site!
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#6 04-23-2011 05:31:23
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Re: Struggling to bounce back after bad (no) feedback
Esmeralda (beautiful name, btw), just wait until you start getting rejected FOR REAL, haha. That'll always make you feel awesome. (I don't know why, but I tend to receive rejection letters in the MORNING, right before I leave for work. It's an awesome way to start your day!) but trust me, once you get the ONE acceptance letter (and all you need is one!) it'll make all the pain of rejection worthwhile. It helps, in this business, to have a tough skin, and as many additional layers as you can grow. I agree with everyone who stated that writing is all about perserverance. I am currently working on my first novel (well, it might be a novella. Same diff)... as a writer of primarily short stories, it's HARD, but so worthwhile, so I sympathize with you there. The important thing to remember is that 99% of what you'll write (at least with me, haha) will not be perfect the first time around. It's rare that I write a chapter, or even a paragraph or sentence, that I don't want to tweak. But I actually enjoy the revision process - it is tremendously satisfying in its own right.
I'd be happy to look at anything you have on the site - I love reviewing. The best thing you could have done for yourself was join this site... I joined in February and have had three pieces published in four different lit journals since then. These people are miracle workers. ![]()
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#7 04-23-2011 06:39:08
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Just remember that writers -- unlike brain surgeons -- don't have to get it right the first time. ![]()
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#8 04-23-2011 06:45:06
- esmerelda morgenstern
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Re: Struggling to bounce back after bad (no) feedback
Thanks for the advice, everybody. I know I need to work on my thick skin, and this has been a good lesson (albeit an awkward one).
After stewing for a while last night, I got inspired to do a major revamp of some pretty key plot details (and an age shift of the main character), and I think it's going to make a huge difference. So in the end, I think this was a blessing in disguise, and I'm going to try not to let it drag me down.
Thanks again for the helpful tips!
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#9 04-23-2011 07:10:47
- JElizabeth
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Oh, I forgot to add this in my original post - but it IS possible that you're overreacting, and your friend's silence doesn't mean anything. Maybe she's just embarrassed because she was begging you to read it, but then wasn't able to look at it due to time restrictions. I've done this to writer friends before, and felt like a jackass, so I kept stalling to bide time.
Don't feel like you have to completely revamp your novel to satisfy someone whose opinion you arent' even sure of. Of course, if you like the changes and are happy with them, that's one thing, but stay true to yourself and trust in your own abilities.
And that's all I have to say about that. ![]()
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#10 04-23-2011 07:25:56
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Re: Struggling to bounce back after bad (no) feedback
Yes but non-writers as much as they think they understand...do not usually. Those of us use to seeing rough drafts can often see the pearls among the swine.
When people who are not use the amount of polishing a writer has to do see an early work...they see the swine.![]()
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