#1 10-04-2009 20:36:44
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#2 10-05-2009 05:18:26
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Wooo-hooo! Thanks!
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#3 10-05-2009 12:45:52
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Hi Jeanne,
Welcome to Sorcery! I'm looking forward to reading your novel & working with you.
Have a great day.
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#4 10-05-2009 14:05:27
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Thanks Rita...looking forward to reading your work as well ![]()
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#5 10-06-2009 13:51:26
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Hi Jeanne,
Just printed up the first chapter from your story & noticed it's set in Costa Rica. Could we have found a better match? I lived there for 10 years and still spend a few months out of the year in that luscious corner of the world. Great choice for a setting! Looking forward to reading your story.
'Dive deep and never come up!' should be the motto for all who hunger to create in words. -- Henry Miller
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#6 10-06-2009 14:24:37
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rita aguilar wrote:
Hi Jeanne,
Just printed up the first chapter from your story & noticed it's set in Costa Rica. Could we have found a better match? I lived there for 10 years and still spend a few months out of the year in that luscious corner of the world. Great choice for a setting! Looking forward to reading your story.
Rita - how wonderful! I'm so excited. I have been to Panama (even though my heart was set on Costa Rica) and I am basing at lot of my scenes on what I saw there, but you will be an invaluable resource. I only hope I can be of help to you as well.
I had a quick look at some of your work and from what I read so far, I have to say you are a fabulous writer.
"And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom."
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#7 10-07-2009 13:08:55
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Hi Jeanne,
Thanks so much for having a look at 'Uninvited'. It's my new baby so it's really great to have such positive & detailed feedback so early in the game.
I was wondering...would you mind being a regular reader for 'uninvited', instead of doing 'Eolyn'? I have a good list of readers for Eolyn at this point, and I think knowing someone is waiting for the next installment of 'Uninvited' would help keep me moving on that project. Also, given the subject matter of 'Dark Angel', I think I'd gain a lot from your feedback in terms of ideas on world building for supernatural beings. Well, let me know what you think.
If you decide to continue with 'Uninvited', give me a few days before you go to the next chapter. I've been working on rewrites, and it'd be great to get the new material up before you read more. I'll post in my sticky & here when the rewrites are up.
I really liked the first chapter of 'Dark Angel', by the way. Found very little to nitpick. You have a very engaging writing style and I look forward to reading more of your story.
'Dive deep and never come up!' should be the motto for all who hunger to create in words. -- Henry Miller
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#8 10-07-2009 13:13:11
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rita aguilar wrote:
Hi Jeanne,
Thanks so much for having a look at 'Uninvited'. It's my new baby so it's really great to have such positive & detailed feedback so early in the game.
I was wondering...would you mind being a regular reader for 'uninvited', instead of doing 'Eolyn'? I have a good list of readers for Eolyn at this point, and I think knowing someone is waiting for the next installment of 'Uninvited' would help keep me moving on that project. Also, given the subject matter of 'Dark Angel', I think I'd gain a lot from your feedback in terms of ideas on world building for supernatural beings. Well, let me know what you think.
If you decide to continue with 'Uninvited', give me a few days before you go to the next chapter. I've been working on rewrites, and it'd be great to get the new material up before you read more. I'll post in my sticky & here when the rewrites are up.
I really liked the first chapter of 'Dark Angel', by the way. Found very little to nitpick. You have a very engaging writing style and I look forward to reading more of your story.
Hi Rita - I would be delighted to be a regular reader of Uninvited. Thanks for your kind words about Dark Angel.
Looking forward to continuing my read.
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#9 10-13-2009 14:11:06
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Jeanne, I just read your response to my review. Please don't let some jerk get you down. I've had my share of drive-by reviews with a one or two rating, as has everyone on this forum. If it's really nasty, turn him/her in to Soln, and I bet you won't see them on the site after you do.
All I can say is if a reviewer gives you a nasty review they better give you some honest ways to fix the problem. But having read you, I can tell you the reviewer is talking out his/her ass.
Just smile, send back a comment with a 1 rating and forget the crumb. Don't let this reviewer take up valuable time in your head. I need you to put up another chapter, sweetie! (smile)
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#10 10-17-2009 18:21:27
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I've taken the advice of some reviewers (inparticular Rita) and rewritten and republished my second chapter "The House". I would be ever so grateful for some feedback. Thanks!
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#11 10-18-2009 10:43:39
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I will check it out Jeanne.
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#12 10-18-2009 11:43:36
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Jeanne M. Bannon wrote:
I've taken the advice of some reviewers (inparticular Rita) and rewritten and republished my second chapter "The House". I would be ever so grateful for some feedback. Thanks!
I'll try to get to it today, Jeanne
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#13 10-18-2009 15:08:59
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Thanks for the review Susan and thanks maryapryl for making the time to review (no rush - just whenever you have the time)
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#14 10-19-2009 08:30:01
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Any time, girl.
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#15 10-19-2009 09:25:42
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Thanks!
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#16 10-21-2009 14:18:57
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Hi Jeanne!
On rewrites -
No, it never stops.
When I first started Eolyn, my primary objective was just to get the story down. The whole thing, from beginning to end, without much attention to refining each chapter as I moved forward. I've since done multiple rewrites (I stopped counting, so don't ask how many), at first running through the whole book from beginning to end, more recently going back to fix certain passages or tie up loose ends across multiple chapters at once.
Something very different is happening with Uninvited. I'm taking a lot more care with each scene & posting rewrites as I go forward. Still, I know deep down inside there are some things - even in the opening chapters - that I will not figure out until I finish the story and can look back at the whole thing.
I don't know which (if any) approach is better. They both take a lot of time for different reasons. I do think it's important (for me personally) to keep the ball rolling, just because sometimes a solution to that persistent problem in ch 1 won't reveal itself until you write that climatic scene in ch 37. Then it'll be "Ah-hah! In order to set this up properly I need to..."
Between you & me, I'm dreading ch 2 of Uninvited, because the only idea I have right now is insipid. (ch 3 on the other hand, is going to be fun). That may be another reason why I'm dawdling on ch 1....
I'm looking forward to ch 3 of Dark Angel. ![]()
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#17 10-21-2009 14:53:16
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Boy Rita, that's so true. I have cut almost half of my word count on the first novel doing rewrites (went from 148,000 words to around 87,000) and I'm still picking away at it. I also feel finishing the novel, while doing small edits after reviews is the best way to go about it, because you're right, sometimes it's better to get it all out then do the major fixes. That's where I'm at now.
One thing I've found by waiting though, is if you make a major change in a finished story it effects the whole novel sometimes and it's so hard to find everything that reflects those changes in the rest of the work. You almost have to read the whole novel to find them. Or hope your reviewers find them. I found that out the hard way. An example: if you say, change where a scene takes place you would need to make sure that the old scene is not mentioned somewhere else in the novel, or that scene did not generate another one somewhere. Or if you cut a scene, will it change something mentioned later?
With two books complete in my series, and a third one started, making a major change afterwards can be daunting.
It's quite pain in the ass, I tell ya.
Susan
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#18 10-22-2009 19:45:19
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Thanks for your comments on writing/rewriting - I know i'm not the only one going through countless rewrites. I had to push myself to move forward and I just posted a chapter that is pretty rough around the edges. But, I wanted to get something posted so that I feel like I'm making progess and moving forward. I'm really curious about what kind of feedback I get on this chapter.
I've got my entire first draft completed, but it's just not good enough to post yet. I'm feeling pretty good about getting myself motivated. I've had a busy week with work and I just couldn't bring myself to write for a few days. I needed to rest my brain. I think I'll do a review or two now.
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#19 10-23-2009 11:51:05
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Just printed your chapter 11 Jeanne and will read it tonight.
I have also been in a place where the writing just wouldn't flow.
Or another problem: I have a vision for another book. And it just won't leave me so I can write on in the one's I have started. Such a pain. But if it's not there, you can't push it. So I just review and write when I can.
It will come back Jeanne, it always does, and if you are like me it usually comes back with such a big push that I can think of nothing else. Ha!
Susan
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#20 10-23-2009 17:37:53
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Susan Stec wrote:
Just printed your chapter 11 Jeanne and will read it tonight.
I have also been in a place where the writing just wouldn't flow.
Or another problem: I have a vision for another book. And it just won't leave me so I can write on in the one's I have started. Such a pain. But if it's not there, you can't push it. So I just review and write when I can.
It will come back Jeanne, it always does, and if you are like me it usually comes back with such a big push that I can think of nothing else. Ha!
Susan
I certainly hope to have the problem of wanting to write and not stop. I've noticed that you've been quite prolific these days - good for you. I've been busy with work, but I met my deadline which was today and so I will have more time next week to write and review. With my line of work, it's either feast or famine. I'm going to have a look at your new posts now.
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#21 10-24-2009 10:00:42
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Thanks Jeanne, just take your time. I'll be here. Remember, I don't have a deadline. I am retired. Putting in your review today. (smile) I am enjoying 'The Dark Angel'.
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#22 10-24-2009 13:13:44
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Susan Stec wrote:
(smile) I am enjoying 'The Dark Angel'.
Me too!
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#23 10-24-2009 19:39:46
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Thanks ladies - you make me want to keep writing!
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#24 10-25-2009 09:10:06
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And you should. (smile)
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#25 10-26-2009 20:59:51
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A question about Costa Rica? Oooh, any time - the trick will be to get me to shut up. ![]()
Golfito is a great place. It used to be the headquarters of United Fruit (now Chiquita Brands). I think they moved there in the 1950s or 60s (After having been on the Caribbean side since the late 19th century). They abandoned the town in the mid 1980s b/c of a worker's strike (kind of a pattern of behavior with UFCO). Since then, it's been depressed economically.
The town is squeezed between a small bay (that empties into the "Golfo Dulce") and rather steep, forested mountains. It's got a short airstrip with an open-air hanger. On one end of the airstrip there's a pot-hole-filled road where the taxis await passengers coming off the small planes. On the other end there's a mountain. (So you always land praying the brakes work in time...)
You can still see the footprint of United Fruit. One part of town, where UFCO's executives & managers lived, has large two-story wooden homes that might have been elegant once, though they're pretty run down now. The rest of town is built up with the small, crowded constructions more typical of Costa Rican homes. Everything is kind of half rotting away. I stayed at a hotel there once, and water came out of the faucet black. (And no, there was no evil presence in the room!)
Despite its economic troubles, Golfito is still an important town for the region. There's a major hospital there (major, that is, in the context of Costa Rica), and a duty-free zone that is visited by travelers from San Jose looking for tax-free refrigerators and tires and such. From a biological standpoint, it is the gateway to the most beautiful and species-rich region of the country, the Osa Peninsula. Golfito itself has some fantastic forest surrounding it. I have it on good authority it's the best place to collect tropical snakes and lizards in the country. The University of Costa Rica has a small field station there (with very rustic rooms in which the shower floors have long since rotted out...)
What else would you like to know? It's hot and humid, and rains a lot. The plants and flowers are lush, lush, lush. And the smells are strong - whether sweet or sour. From the bay, you can access mangroves and beaches by boat...whales have been spotted in the nearby Golfo Dulce. [sigh] I wish I could be there right now.
'Dive deep and never come up!' should be the motto for all who hunger to create in words. -- Henry Miller
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